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#1 User is offline   matmat 

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Posted 2009-December-10, 02:07

AQJTx
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imps, all white.

(4♦)-P-(P)-?
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Posted 2009-December-10, 02:09

4S since they're so good, don't hate double though w/e.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 10:18

Double.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:47

I think double is almost auto on a hand like this, I think it's just too likely 4♦X is our best spot if partner is going to pass it.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 11:58

I'm on record as saying 4♠.

I double more often than I should when I have somewhere 'where I live.'

This time I just decided to bid where I live.
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Posted 2009-December-10, 15:48

jdonn, on Dec 10 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

I think double is almost auto on a hand like this, I think it's just too likely 4♦X is our best spot if partner is going to pass it.

He probably bids 5C more than passing, or some equivalent amount imo. Of course 5C instead of 4S could be right, but 4S instead of 4D X could be right also very often. Of course double gets you to hearts when it's right...

Not clear at all.
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Posted 2009-December-12, 08:14

dble. btw there is a lot to be considered in bidding 4H rather than 4S if you are intent on bidding a suit. I hope partner is understanding if my hand becomes dummy in 5C.
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Posted 2009-December-12, 08:20

mcphee, on Dec 12 2009, 09:14 AM, said:

dble. btw there is a lot to be considered in bidding 4H rather than 4S if you are intent on bidding a suit. I hope partner is understanding if my hand becomes dummy in 5C.

Umm, what? Because partner is bidding 4S over 4H SO OFTEN, that you gain an edge by bidding 4H with 5-5? OH wait, partner is pretty much never going to bid 4S. And our spades are so much stronger and can probably play a 5-2, withstand likely bad splits, etc etc, that I'd say there's nothing to be said for bidding 4H. I would give it a 0.
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Posted 2009-December-12, 09:25

mcphee, on Dec 12 2009, 09:14 AM, said:

dble. btw there is a lot to be considered in bidding 4H rather than 4S if you are intent on bidding a suit. I hope partner is understanding if my hand becomes dummy in 5C.

f you are thinking this is a vondracek hand... sure if you were a little better and maybe 6610 and you are planning to tell partner to turn that trash over and play one hand vs two. butpartner might have any of

d tricks
c tricks
a small trump you can use to ruff h

so i dont think playing the weaker suit applies here
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