[mike777]

Pass geez partner could only have 8-9 hcp and open 1d and rebid 2d. Lets not play pard for some perfect 13-14.


If you want to force pard to 3d to shut out the opp ok, but at some point pard needs to know when you have a real invite or when you are preempting.


See this thread.

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry413224

[dake50]

2D claims D are no easy source of tricks, so warning off NT. Wouldn't partner evaluate his hand as contributing to the 3NT game which 1NT suggested? 2D warns NOT.

Thus 3D as pre-competing against 2H reopen.

[eyhung]

mike777, on Nov 26 2009, 05:40 PM, said:

Pass geez partner could only have 8-9 hcp and open 1d and rebid 2d. Lets not play pard for some perfect 13-14.

If you want to force pard to 3d to shut out the opp ok, but at some point pard needs to know when you have a real invite or when you are preempting.

I vote for 3♦. Putting an opener on a shapely 8-9 point hand is not winning bridge -- what percentage of 1D openers are going to have <10 HCP? 1%? And even then partner will never accept, he will pass 3♦. Mike, if you can rig partner to have the most minimum of hands, then surely I can rig the suits to be thus :

9xx Axxx AT9xxx void

He will still make 3♦ a vast majority of the time. And when he is down, we have a cheap save versus the enemy club contract.

Your second point about partner needing to know about a real invite vs. a courtesy raise is important, but that's what the cue-bid is for. 3♦ is merely a courtesy raise letting partner know about the 9-card diamond fit. A serious invite would cue -- you have already limited your hand by bidding 1NT so it can't be a super-strong hand.

Finally, in response to nige1 : I think it's a common error to try to get too cute tactically in part-score auctions, when the information exchange has been limited. Your references to "1NT white tends to score well" indicates to me that you may be falling into this trap. Just bid your hand. I would rebid 2♦ on almost any unbalanced hand with 6 diamonds, and similarly, I would not disturb an opponent's white 1NT on a mediocre balanced hand just because "1NT white tends to score well". At some point, you have to play bridge and not rely on scoring quirks to make your decisions for you.

[gnasher]

mike777, on Nov 27 2009, 01:40 AM, said:

Pass geez partner could only have 8-9 hcp and open 1d and rebid 2d. Lets not play pard for some perfect 13-14.

Partner was in 3rd seat, non-vulnerable. With almost any hand of that strength containing six diamonds he would have opened 2♦ or 3♦.