[toosons]

nobody vulnerable

The bidding goes:
1♠, 2♥
What do you do holding xxx, A10xx, xx, Qxxx?

Now let's assume you choose to pass and it gets passed back to opener
What do you do with this hand, AKJxxx, void, Jx, AKxxx?
Do you re-open or do you bid some number of clubs?

What are the guidelines for re-opening x's? (i.e. don't with a void in opps suit, don't with 3 or more, don't with a bad hand, etc.)

[pooltuna]

toosons, on Nov 22 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

nobody vulnerable

The bidding goes:
1♠, 2♥
What do you do holding xxx, A10xx, xx, Qxxx?

Now let's assume you choose to pass and it gets passed back to opener
What do you do with this hand, AKJxxx, void, Jx, AKxxx?
Do you re-open or do you bid some number of clubs?

What are the guidelines for re-opening x's? (i.e. don't with a void in opps suit, don't with 3 or more, don't with a bad hand, etc.)

well it is unclear exactly how the auction went altho I find it hard not to believe it went
1♠ (2♥) and it is now my turn.....SUPPORT WITH SUPPORT 2♠ or some equivalent is mandatory!

[awm]

I would've bid 2♠ with the responder hand.

As opener, I would reopen with 4♣. It does not take very much to make a game here, and 3♣ is too likely to be passed.

As for reopening doubles, the rules are:

(1) You want to defend if partner has a marginal penalty pass.
(2) You can handle the various suit bids partner might try.

On this hand, I suspect that we will often be better off to play in a black suit when partner has a penalty pass. Sure, we might nick 2♥ a trick or two, but it's easy to imagine that not all our winners are cashing -- and we might've missed a game. This is a very offensive-oriented hand with the 6-5 shape, and I think it fails the first test above.

[toosons]

Yes that's how it went - sorry I'm not used to posting in here.

The opener in first seat opened 1♠ and then a 2♥ overcall.

Thanks for your response

[Jlall]

I would raise, definitely would reopen 4C.

[toosons]

Jlall - what guidelines do you use for re-opening x's?

[Jlall]

toosons, on Nov 22 2009, 01:51 PM, said:

Jlall - what guidelines do you use for re-opening x's?

If I have a stiff or void in their suit, and partner would have made a penalty double and I would have passed I will try to reopen double regardless of my high cards. This excludes shapes like 6-5 and hands with 7+ spades.

I would also not reopen double with a shape like 6-1-2-4 even if I would have sat for a penalty double from partner.

If I had 2 hearts, the chances that partner has a penalty X of hearts goes way down, and I would not always reopen with a double. If I had Hx of hearts especially, I would frequently pass it out. With xx of hearts I would reopen with 5233 and 52(42). If I had 6 spades and 2 hearts I would generally reopen with 2S.

With 3 hearts I would never reopen with a double.

[toosons]

Thanks Justin - I appreciate it

[Codo]

I think 2 spade was clear.

I am no fan of a 4 club bid. Weh cannot reach 3 NT and it is not likely that we have a spade fit after this start of the bidding, (or partner is completly broke with 0 5 HCPS) so we need a good club fit to justify our 4 club bid. Too unlikely, so I would go with a simple 3 club.