[bill1157]

Scoring: MP

1♣*-1NT
2[CL}-2♠
4♠

lead ♦Q

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I thought I did pretty well here making 4 (spades were 5-1 with West having the length) but I probably should have made 6: how do you play it?

Bill

[Simplicity]

Well for starters it looks like everyone else will be in 3NT making 11 or 12 tricks depending on the club queen, so id best try making 12 or 13 else im pretty sunk anyways.

The only hope I see is to win the ♦K overtake the ♠T with the Jack, ruff a diamond with the Ace, cash a club, overtake the ♠Q with the King pray trumps are 3-3 and then take the club finesse.

Oh trumps are 5-1? - looks like its another bottom, but i'd surely be investigating the bidding not the play

[vuroth]

One line would be to try to ruff 2 diamonds, while hoping for normalish off-suit splits. The upside of doing this is I take advantage of my outstanding spade spots.

Win, A♥, concede a ♥. Trump return probably the worst. Win with ace.

Cash the AK♣ now. I could wait until after my cross-ruff, but I don't want anyone throwing ♣s away under my ♥s.

Ruff a ♥. A♦, ruff a ♦. Ruff another ♥.

Now lose my ♣ trick. Maybe on a good day, trumps split so badly that the winner can't return a trump. Or maybe the queen fell already.


Is this the best line? Dunno.

[TylerE]

I think the key on this hand is that the play really doesn't matter when you've earned a zero on the auction.

What's so hard about, say, 1♣-1♠-2♥-2NT-4NT-pass

[bill1157]

TylerE, on Nov 17 2009, 04:30 PM, said:

I think the key on this hand is that the play really doesn't matter when you've earned a zero on the auction.

What's so hard about, say, 1♣-1♠-2♥-2NT-4NT-pass

sorry 1 club is precision...2C is stayman

[bill1157]

vuroth, on Nov 17 2009, 11:52 AM, said:

One line would be to try to ruff 2 diamonds, while hoping for normalish off-suit splits. The upside of doing this is I take advantage of my outstanding spade spots.

Win, A♥, concede a ♥. Trump return probably the worst. Win with ace.

Cash the AK♣ now. I could wait until after my cross-ruff, but I don't want anyone throwing ♣s away under my ♥s.

Ruff a ♥. A♦, ruff a ♦. Ruff another ♥.

Now lose my ♣ trick. Maybe on a good day, trumps split so badly that the winner can't return a trump. Or maybe the queen fell already.


Is this the best line? Dunno.

Actually east has Qx of clubs so you can win 4 spades in your hand Heart Ace, AK diamonds, 3 clubs(west follows) and 2 diamond ruffs.
I finessed in clubs early which worked badly, I think I can look at the hand and see 11 tricks by simply cashing winners and ruffing 2 diamonds.
Making 6 would have been good, because several were in spades making 5...

Bill

[TylerE]

Well, ok, that makes more sense, but the 4♠ bid still seems like a madman's call to me. The only time you want to play a Moysian is when you know you need to ruff something. BTW, this is a good time to pimp my methods...

After 1♣, the auction would proceed:

1♠ (8-13, 4432 or 4333)
1NT (relay)
2♥ (4432 with ♥ doubleton.)
2♠ (relay)
2NT (Low 3 card suit, so exactly 4=2=4=3)
3♣ (relay)
3♦ (Minimum, bad 10 at most)
3NT