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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-November-10, 14:14

AQxx
Qx
A9xxx
Kx

is this hand 1n or 1d? idk. when is this hand a 1d and when is it 1n?

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Posted 2009-November-10, 14:29

gwnn, on Nov 10 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

AQxx
Qx
A9xxx
Kx

is this 1n or 1d? idk. when is it 1d and when is it 1n?

scattered strength with a range that is hard to describe so 1NT works the best IMO. When is it 1♦? When you can tolerate a reverse something like

AKxx
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AKQxx
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Posted 2009-November-10, 14:35

I meant to ask when would you open this hand 1♦ and when would you open the same hand 1NT, i.e. position, vulnerability, etc. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 14:51

1NT always. Not close. It's such an advantage to open 1NT on this hand if the other table opens 1♦, I bet it's a huge imp and matchpoint gainer.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 15:00

Normally with this pattern I like 1♦ but there are so many reasons to declare NT here.

Naturally when I bid like this pard will have a 6-7 count and 4 spades :blink:
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Posted 2009-November-10, 15:20

I prefer 1♦ at IMPs and 1NT at matchpoints.

At IMPs, you want to bring diamonds into the picture as a possible trump suit. 5♦ may be superior to 3NT at IMPs, and you may be able to find 6♦ on some occasions.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 15:25

Don't look for excuses to not open 1N.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 15:33

I don't think there are any 5422 hands where the vulnerability, position, or form of scoring affects my decision between 1NT and 1♦.

There are probably some 6322 types that I'd open 1NT in 3rd but not in 1st.
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Posted 2009-November-10, 15:37

1NT always for me too.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 03:55

I like 1 NT to be pure more then nearly anybody else here, but this is a 100 % 1 NT opening as long as my NT range is about 15-17.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 08:50

1D.

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Posted 2009-November-11, 10:36

gwnn, on Nov 10 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

AQxx
Qx
A9xxx
Kx

is this hand 1n or 1d? idk. when is this hand a 1d and when is it 1n?

edited in an attempt for clarity

easy 1nt for me but then I would open very often 1nt with 4=2=5=2 shape.

14+ hcp with this shape cause me too many issues if I do not show a nt type hand.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 10:42

I consider this a bellow-medium 15 count so if I open 1♦ I am happy to pass a 1NT response from p, or any weak bid by p after 1♦-1♥-1♠. Make it just a tad better and I would always open 1NT to avoid that issue.

As it is I would normally open 1NT, but 1♦ in 2nd seat r/r and possibly in a few similar situations.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 10:48

Size and Shape (sort of)=1NT. But it is close, IMHO. No really uncomfortable rebid problems if I open 1D, just have one extra hCP. Would not even discuss this with a partner who chose 1D.
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Posted 2009-November-11, 12:40

1N
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Posted 2009-November-11, 18:30

I can't thikn an alternative to 1NT.
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