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Posted 2004-July-06, 02:29

NORTH'S HAND
S: XX
H: AT
D: QJTXX
C: AKXX

SOUTH'S HAND
S: AKTX
H: QX
D: K987X
C: XX

6D BY SOUTH, OPENING LEAD IS CQ. PLAN YOUR PLAY.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 02:51

I'll play for a singleton ace of trumps. Ruff two spades high, ruff two clubs high, then play a trump and look closely to opponents reactions in order to guess what to play on the heart return.

If at some stage you're overruffed and a trump is played back, there are still some squeeze chances.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 03:43

I was going to say im with whereaqles, but lets first check how good his line his.
You need A sgl diamond - this is about 30%
You also need to get the heart , this is less then 50%.
Combining it gives you 15%. You also makes it when the QJ of spade are doublton, i dont know how much it adds but it is certentily less then 10%, als some overruffing should take the chances a bit lower, so you have less then 25% .
finding RHO with both spade pictures is 25%, so its better.
Going for simple squeeze will be imo less then 25%.
So its probebly best to begin with a trump, play 1 more to take them out,and finnese spade twice. i wouldnt play small if LHO wining the A of heart come back with heart, because usually the opponents doesnt give present for no resson.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 03:55

QJx of spades is about 9%, I think. That makes both lines more or less the same.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 04:24

hi fly.. draw trumps, trump a club to leave west in charge, play the A, leaving the Q in south (hoping east has K), and run trumps from dummy, hoping both have spades.. what i see is:



now play the last diamond... have no idea if this works
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Posted 2004-July-06, 06:40

I see 4 chances.
Squeeze, QJ onside, QJ3rd either hand or singleton trump Ace.
I think I'll combine my chances.
I like Jimmy's line, so I'll do same.

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Posted 2004-July-06, 06:54

Actually i forgot that the anamination play works also for QJX on either hand, that probebly turn the chances in favore of this play.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 07:43

Draw trumps, I'll see what I'll do next, cause you might have to cash in A first, or keep it and cash in AK first... However, I think you might have to ruff 1, so don't draw all your trumps just yet, only 4 :D It also depends on what opps play when they have a trick with A...
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Posted 2004-July-06, 08:38

Several lines suggest themselves.

1) The black suit elimination originally suggested, playing for the hand with the A singleton to be endplayed (and not be able to overruff early and exit other black suit).

2) A simple positional squeeze against WEST, playing him to have K and four cards (or more) in clubs (requires ruffing two spades in hand, and gets lucky if QJ fall in three rounds.

3) A triple squeeze, playing one player or the other other to hold 4+, 4+, and the King (requires one black suit ruff in both each hand to isolate the threat.

4) A vienna coupe against EAST, playing him to hold K (or J) and five or any length to both QJ. This is the line Jimmy tried for (but his ending can't be right.. he had to ruff two , so dummy would have no left, and there would be the T in dummy at this point. He showed it as a double squeeze, but that doesn't work because without ruffing the threat, you only have 10 winners, not the 11 he has shown in his ending.

How would I play it, I would start out hoping for mis-defense and win , cross in . and lead a low . I want WEST to think I am trying to trick him in playing low from doubleton king, crashing with his partner's singleton ace. If he thinks this way with Ax, he will play low. When the holds, I know eliminate the black cards, and thow WEST in I guess.

Should they win and clear , I will go for the positional double squeeze on WEST in clubs and .

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Posted 2004-July-06, 14:32



Looks many ppl would make it at the table.

At the table I adopted stripe play, which was unsucessful for the c and d distribution.

Knocking out D ace looks a better line, you still keep many chance, you can sqz LHO in C/H, or RHO in S/H.


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Posted 2004-July-06, 14:50

You didnt mention any bidding, and with these hands they might have bid.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 15:02

Flame, on Jul 6 2004, 08:50 PM, said:

You didnt mention any bidding, and with these hands they might have bid.

THey didnt bid, otherwise I would give out the auction.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 15:05

flytoox, on Jul 6 2004, 04:32 PM, said:

Looks many ppl would make it at the table.

Looks I finally got one right.. :-)
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Posted 2004-July-06, 15:18

inquiry, on Jul 6 2004, 09:05 PM, said:

flytoox, on Jul 6 2004, 04:32 PM, said:

Looks many ppl would make it at the table.

Looks I finally got one right.. :-)

Hehe, I am not surprised.
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Posted 2004-July-06, 15:28

you're right ben, the 10 is still in my hand and no club... sigh... i saw a squeeze position and by gum i inserted it ;)
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Posted 2004-July-06, 15:38

luke warm, on Jul 6 2004, 05:28 PM, said:

you're right ben, the 10 is still in my hand and no club... sigh... i saw a squeeze position and by gum i inserted it ;)

:-) Visualization is the key... you visualized a great double squeeze ending. Next, you have to learn to make sure you have the cards to reach the desired ending. I really liked your ending, so did at least ...Trpltrbl.... This is because it is a cute ending, just not possible.

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Posted 2004-July-06, 17:44


"Paul Krugman is a stupid person's idea of what a smart person sounds like." Newt Gingrich (paraphrased)
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Posted 2004-July-06, 17:55

Yeah, I think that's possible :D
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Posted 2004-July-06, 19:28

inquiry, on Jul 6 2004, 04:38 PM, said:

I really liked your ending, so did at least ...Trpltrbl.... This is because it is a cute ending, just not possible.

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