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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:12

I could had avoided this by not opening but here I am.


♠K10
♥J863
♦J974
♣AK8


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1♦-(2♥)-X-(pass)
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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:16

Is this imps? Eh whatever I pass even at imps. That may be too terrifying to some but I really think it is the percentage bid despite the obvious risk of them making it.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:19

its MPs, and I knew yo uwere gonna pass :)
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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:21

Fluffy, on Nov 2 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

its MPs, and I knew yo uwere gonna pass :)

:) Yeah MP red/red I'm actually happy to pass.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:38

Pass too - it actually could be quite lucrative.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:42

Hey cut it out guys, I started it.

I also make the super high variance pass. May get a huge number versus air, may give up a couple overtricks. But there is nothing else to do.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 19:24

I'll sit it out red/red at mps, but at other conditions, I'll go against the rest and pull (2n scrambling). Maybe we can beat it with a spade lead from the ace, but I don't like our chances on what rates to be a diamond lead.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 19:40

this was a sound 2♥ weak overcall BTW he had ♥AKQ10xx with 6331
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Posted 2009-November-03, 03:09

I don't much like the idea of defending 2♥x on a diamond lead. I'd bid 2NT at any form of scoring.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-03, 04:36

I would bid 2 NT at imps, but pass at mps.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 04:58

I would bid 2NT , but in MP (only!) would not be upset if partner passed.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 05:38

I admit I would never have Passed at the table, and would have bid 2NT.

I find it quite interesting that experts suggest a Pass here : I'm not really a strong MP player, and try to get any opportunities to improve my judgement in this area.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 06:19

you are in the right site for that dellache ;), 1 year ago I would bid 2NT without a doubt. But some post by Justin have made me switch gears.

I passed and collected 800, partner had a monster





One more question, after cashing ♦AKQ partner didn't trust my ♦9 and switched to clubs. Is it normal to switch to ♣9 to show no honnor or to third to show count?
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Posted 2009-November-03, 06:19

interesting.
pass
pass
pass
pass
show actual hand which bid 2H, then
pull
pull
pull
pull
then show the good result from passing.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 06:23

yeah I am a bit evil ;)
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Posted 2009-November-03, 06:29

ehehehe I was about to make the same conclusion....

I don't like to sit in auctions like this one, I tend to follow the rule (TO doubles are for take out) unless I have big reasons not to...

One of those reasons could the be the fact that I am playing MPs and have to make some sort on "against the field" action in search for a good result.

So, 2NT for me.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 06:37

aguahombre, on Nov 3 2009, 01:19 PM, said:

interesting.
pass
pass
pass
pass
show actual hand which bid 2H, then
pull
pull
pull
pull
then show the good result from passing.

Yes, I always take advantage of whatever clues we've been given. It's much more important to look good than to actually think about the problem.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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