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#1 User is offline   ghow 

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Posted 2009-November-02, 13:10

a vanilla auction but what now?

no one vul at imps

(p) p (1!d) x
(p) 1!h (2!c) ?

OOPS!!!! here's your hand
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  Posted 2009-November-02, 14:10

Having a void in all suits, I suppose I can pick any splinter now.

Edit: now that we see our cards I'd Double again, showing values. I'll then pass 2♥, and bid some NT otherwise.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:15

i'd pass, i don't understand why i doubled in the first place. the shape is all wrong.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:29

ghow, on Nov 2 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

a vanilla auction but what now?

no one vul at imps

(p) p (1!d) x
(p) 1!h (2!c) ?

OOPS!!!! here's your hand
KT95
AQ9
AQ4
KJ3

unlike many of the clowns out there who bid 2♥ with any minmal TOX hand that has 4♥ I actually promise xtra values when I bid 2♥ probably a little conservative for some but I think I need to give partner some leeway as transportation rates to be problematic
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:36

gwnn, on Nov 2 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

i'd pass, i don't understand why i doubled in the first place. the shape is all wrong.

The shape is all wrong??? Basically you promise 3 card support for any suit partner has. I would X with 6 HCP fewer and the same shape.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:39

pooltuna, on Nov 2 2009, 10:36 PM, said:

gwnn, on Nov 2 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

i'd pass, i don't understand why i doubled in the first place. the shape is all wrong.

The shape is all wrong??? Basically you promise 3 card support for any suit partner has. I would X with 6 HCP fewer and the same shape.

I guess he replied before the OP was edited and the hand put in..... B)
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:41

I double a second time.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:42

dbl shows this hand. OK four clubs would be better but at least I have two honours.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:43

Double again, it's std this shows extra with 3 in the suit partner bid. The only other option is 2NT but that seems dangerous if partner has very little.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:48

I'm sure I'd bid 2NT at the table but it's probably neater to double to show extras and 3 cards.
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Posted 2009-November-02, 16:39

X.

Should show the strong bal. hand, if p passes the worst
that can happen is 2CX=, if he bids on, I will be fine as well.
It does not even matter, what p thinks the X to be.

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Posted 2009-November-02, 18:03

Double there is no other option at all.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 03:12

I don't think double promises the 18+ balanced hand. You could also have a 4315 or 4324 16-count.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-03, 08:47

Okay, I have already Double....
Does a 2D cue now followed by a 2NT suggestion (e.g. if partner rebids hearts) strikes you all that bad...?
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 08:54

It strikes me as an overbid.

If you want to suggest notrump, you could bid 2NT now.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 09:17

DBL

I would rather play 2♥ than 2NT.
If partner can make a move then I have an easy 3NT.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 16:37

gnasher, on Nov 3 2009, 04:12 AM, said:

I don't think double promises the 18+ balanced hand. You could also have a 4315 or 4324 16-count.

Yes I agree, 16 would be the min.
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