[aguahombre]

If 2H is a suit (preferred, IMHO), then 2S begins confusion --just like auctions which Start 1H-1S unneccesarily with good heart support. If 2H = 2/3 top honors to start with, the "why jump around?" question is already answered. There are 13 tricks in Hearts at IMPS if the hearts break 3-2. That is pretty good for the grand, and I don't really want partner converting to 7NT, or thinking he is being invited to do so with the club King.

I also don't want doubt about what trump is, if 2H merely showed 5+H and 8+-- because I will need to know about the heart Queen. I expect to bring back at least a push on the board.

[ONEferBRID]

If 2H is not the immediate negative, standard is 5+ cd suit w/2 of the top 3 honors.
Some play 3 of the top 5. You need to decide on which. If "either", that can cause problems, although RKC can sort it out. [ Correct me if I'm wrong, but many posters here, I believe from observation, consider RKC for "wimps". ] .
If no "good" 5 cd suit, then 2D! waiting . Responder can bid Hts next to show a less worthy 5+ cd Ht suit.

Even if it were 5 cds, you may only get 3 top tricks out of it before relinquishing control of it. Likewise with the Sp suit. That gives you only 10 top tricks .

I agree with the 2S rebid by opener.... to see what develops. ( 2C was GF wasn't it ? ). If partner rebids Hts ( showing 6 ) , NOW I am interested in the grand. Likewise, if partner supports Sp.

If neither of those actions develop, I'm going to settle in 6H or 6S.

[pooltuna]

aguahombre, on Nov 1 2009, 11:35 AM, said:

If 2H is a suit (preferred, IMHO), then 2S begins confusion --just like auctions which Start 1H-1S unneccesarily with good heart support.  If 2H = 2/3 top honors to start with, the "why jump around?" question is already answered.  There are 13 tricks in Hearts at IMPS if the hearts break 3-2.  That is pretty good for the grand, and I don't really want partner converting to 7NT, or thinking he is being invited to do so with the club King.

I also don't want doubt about what trump is, if 2H merely showed 5+H and 8+-- because I will need to know about the heart Queen. I expect to bring back at least a push on the board.

So let me see if I understand this correctly you would rather play in 7♥ than 7NT if the hands look like this

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That would be absurd since 7NT would make when you have a ♥ loser but the ♠ suit comes in.

[Old York]

HeavyDluxe, on Oct 30 2009, 04:54 PM, said:

Sadly, in the OP's situation, I think 2♠ risks garnering a pass from partner

Is the rebid 100% game forcing? that rather depends on partner.... sigh

http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer...7814-1254803993

The only way to prevent bidding misunderstandings is to allow your partner to see your alerts by using Fd..... but, of course, this is unlawful

Tony
(hope this link works)

http://online.bridgebase.com/myhands/fetch...ayed=1254803993

[helene_t]

I wouldn't worry about a 2♠ bid being passed unless I was playing for higher stakes than I can afford.

It's not akin to the unlucky expert improvising a scrambling or Lebensohl 2NT when playing with ms Guggenheim. Playing with a (possibly) clueless partner you should play simple, but civilized, bridge. How are they to ever learn the game if nobody trust them to handle basic auctions?