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Posted 2009-October-28, 12:34

Yes the 5H bidders are resulting, 1H 3S 5H is definitely a slam try in hearts with no spade control. I'm sure they'd all find that bid if the given hand was xx KQxx AKQxx Ax.

What happened to don't preempt over a preempt? Part of the logic is as Andy said, it's unneccesary to preempt LHO when RHO is never going to bid again anyways.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 12:37

jdonn, on Oct 28 2009, 10:38 AM, said:

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What makes you think LHO will double a delayed 5♥ and not a direct 5♥?

Because in the first case he has already shown his spade support.

What? So what? His partner is never going to pull his X of 5H because he raised to 4S already. Ergo it is completely irrelevant if he's shown his spade support or not, his partner is out of the auction.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 13:19

I'll bid 4♥ then 5♥ if necessary.

RHO has limited his hand fairly closely since he could have bid either 2♠ or 4♠ instead. Therefore he is going to be out of the auction and LHO will be making all the decisions. It's quite unlikely we will get to play 4♥ but even more unlikely that bidding 5♥ immediately will give opponents (ie LHO) a more difficult problem than if I bid it slowly.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 15:16

jdonn, on Oct 28 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

Phil, on Oct 28 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

Josh is it practically negligible that partner has 4 spades and LHO one?

Yes. What do you want him to have, 11 cards in the minors or something?

Also I agree with Art also that 5♥ asking for a spade control is so rare as to be virtually useless.

yeah, much more likelly to have a vul vs not preemptive :)
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