[andy_h]

Scoring: IMP

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You're in either 1st or 2nd seat, NV or V.

What's your style with 6-5 or 6-6's? Does it change if the 2 suits were M/m?
(I'm assuming having both majors is a bit more lenient)

[pooltuna]

[quote name='andy_h' date='Oct 25 2009, 08:53 AM']

Scoring: IMP

♠
♥	10
♦	KJ9875
♣	A98543

 
You're in either 1st or 2nd seat, NV or V.

What's your style with 6-5 or 6-6's? Does it change if the 2 suits were M/m?
(I'm assuming having both majors is a bit more lenient)[/quote]
I wait for a chance to show 2 suits if I can. Partner usually holds

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(I'm assuming having both majors is a bit more lenient) Pass but tempted to bid 1♦ 0 Back to top of the page up there ^ #15   phil_20686  Scotland Group: Advanced Members Posts: 2,754 Joined: 2008-August-22 Gender:Male Location:Scotland Posted 2009-October-26, 13:03 i have had soime bad expereinces passing these hands. If partner opens or overcalls in spades it can be come extremely difficult to bring your second suit into the auction. 1s-2d 2h-? You are basically prevented from bidding your second suit. Then again, passing is excellent when the opps have a large fit, p 1s p 4s and you ahve an easy 4N bid. I have no real feeling on what will be best in the longer term, but at the moment im a bidder wit these hands. 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[Phil]

If I'm playing some opening to show a two suited minor hand, I'll use it.



As my Dad still says, "you have an immediate grasp of the obvious"

Not having that I'll pass.

If I have both majors with this strength, I'll pass.

[Free]

Phil, on Oct 25 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

If I'm playing some opening to show a two suited minor hand, I'll use it.

Even a 4NT opening?

[Phil]

Free, on Oct 25 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

Phil, on Oct 25 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

If I'm playing some opening to show a two suited minor hand, I'll use it.

Even a 4NT opening?

With 6-6? All day long.

[Jlall]

I would pass

[Fluffy]

2/4NT if avaible otherwise pass

[effervesce]

ditto fluffy

[655321]

1♦

[cherdanno]

4N in 1st seat.

[mich-b]

Pass , and bid a lot later.

This way your hand is limited by the original pass , and pd will not get excited with points, but no good fit.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

If you have a opening bid to show at least 6-5, I would
use it, I dont have it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdonn]

I pass. I hate 4NT even if playing it as minors (which I don't anyway) since this hand is not nearly preemptive enough, even with 6-6. One of the suits is Axxxxx, that's terrible for opening a high level preempt.

[jmcw]

andy_h, on Oct 25 2009, 08:53 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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You're in either 1st or 2nd seat, NV or V.

What's your style with 6-5 or 6-6's? Does it change if the 2 suits were M/m?
(I'm assuming having both majors is a bit more lenient)

Pass but tempted to bid 1♦

[phil_20686]

i have had soime bad expereinces passing these hands. If partner opens or overcalls in spades it can be come extremely difficult to bring your second suit into the auction.

1s-2d
2h-?

You are basically prevented from bidding your second suit. Then again, passing is excellent when the opps have a large fit, p 1s p 4s and you ahve an easy 4N bid.

I have no real feeling on what will be best in the longer term, but at the moment im a bidder wit these hands. Ill get back to you in about 5 years when i have picked up enough for a statistically significant sample

[skjaeran]

Easy pass with my methods.
Playing 2NT as both minors, I'd open 2NT.
4NT is far out IMO.

[nigel_k]

1♦ but only because I have an ace and a king so my hand is not hopeless on defence. Otherwise pass then bid NT at whatever level.

[Flameous]

2 or 4NT if available. 2♦ followed with 4 or 5♣ if not.

[Codo]

2 NT if avaiable, pass else. Never 4 NT, even if avaiable.