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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-October-22, 18:29

My partner held this hand and did something interesting:

xx
ATxx
AQJxx
Qx

1♦-2NT
?

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Posted 2009-October-22, 18:41

Interesting like pass or 3♦?

I bid 3N but my 2N calls aren't bad 10's.
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Posted 2009-October-22, 18:55

I bet the interesting call was 3♠ expecting partner to just auto 3NT.
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Posted 2009-October-22, 19:28

Just bid 3N
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Posted 2009-October-23, 02:29

A Nespresso 3NT.
Pass is just tolerable. Anything else is an attempt to destroy partnership's trust in the long term.
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Posted 2009-October-23, 08:16

Let me guess 2N may have a 4xM when tenaced/quacky, so "checkback" 3C and found 4-4/4-3 H-fit with only 1xS-stop.
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Posted 2009-October-23, 08:20

No, 3♣ is to play, isn't it? Would come in handy with a 55m ten count. A strong hand can always bid 3M.
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Posted 2009-October-23, 08:23

gwnn, on Oct 22 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

My partner held this hand and did something interesting:

xx
ATxx
AQJxx
Qx

1♦-2NT
?

NV imps

he doesn't like the hands you use to bid 2NT so he passed?
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Posted 2009-October-24, 15:34

he bid 3♦. it worked out great, i had ♠xx and ♦KTx or something, dont remember the exact hand
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Posted 2009-October-24, 18:01

Well, in that case you either had 4 hearts or 5 clubs, so I may politely suggest 2NT was not the best call on your cards?
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Posted 2009-October-25, 03:02

You may suggest an alternative too -- 1NT is 6-10 2C is GF 3C is 9-11, 6 good cards. So 2NT is needed with 2335.
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Posted 2009-October-25, 03:04

Yeah in normal 2/1 methods it is a problem that you might have to bid 2N with inadequate stoppers. There are fixes to this but nothing is perfect.
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Posted 2009-October-26, 05:53

Pass?

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Posted 2009-October-26, 07:12

Looking at this hand I wonder what 3♥ should show at this stage.

Assuming that 3♥ is forcing I wonder:

Should 3♥ show more than a raise to 3NT would? If yes, why?
Should any of responders 4 minor rebids be forcing on opener?
If yes, why?
If a ♠ lead is beating 3NT and you bid 3NT how likely are you to escape a ♠ lead?

By far the most likely hand opener is to hold at this stage is a hand where he has enough to raise but concerned about one of the majors.

Should 3♥ even guarantee 4 cards?

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