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Overbidding?

Poll: How many hearts do you bid? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

How many hearts do you bid?

  1. 2[HE] (12 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

  2. 3[HE] (22 votes [64.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

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Posted 2009-October-28, 08:38

1♥ p 1N p
?

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Posted 2009-October-28, 08:45

3♥. Why am I downgrading AAAK again? Even game is good opposite xxx Qx xxx KQxxx or Kxx xx KQ10x xxxx or xx Qx AQxxx xxxx etc etc.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 09:36

15 is usually the cutoff for 2/3.

3622 call for conservatism.

A AK A + ♥9 call for aggression.

2♥ at MPs, but 3♥ in the problem given.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 09:41

Of course I'd prefer if one of my ♦ was a ♣ and that would make 3♥ clear for me, but vul at IMPs I don't mind going for 3♥ here as well.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 10:17

3♥. With all prime honors, this isn't even close for me. The hand is clearly worth more than 15.

Sometimes I use the guideline that a jump should be about an ace better than an opening hand. Anyone out there who would not open A8x AK96xx xx xx? I doubt it.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 10:19

15 is definitely below the range for 3♥, but upgrading this is fine.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 12:12

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 12:54

3♥. The potential of this hand exceeds the point count.
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Posted 2009-October-28, 13:09

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.

almost always 2♥!!! There you go downgrading again :lol:
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Posted 2009-October-28, 13:16

pooltuna, on Oct 28 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.

almost always 2♥!!! There you go downgrading again :lol:

umm, I consider it an upgrade to bid 3H with 15 and that shape (obviously it's different if I have 7 hearts).

Seriously people are routinely bidding 3H with 15 and 6322?
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Posted 2009-October-28, 13:18

pooltuna, on Oct 28 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.

almost always 2♥!!! There you go downgrading again :lol:

I never thought I'd ask someone this, but do you ever make a serious post? lol
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Posted 2009-October-28, 13:19

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Oct 28 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.

almost always 2♥!!! There you go downgrading again :lol:

umm, I consider it an upgrade to bid 3H with 15 and that shape (obviously it's different if I have 7 hearts).

Seriously people are routinely bidding 3H with 15 and 6322?

probably just upgrading more hands than you are :)
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Posted 2009-October-28, 15:20

what kind of trash do I open 1♥ normally with?

This looks like a 3♥ bid to me. Borderline if I opened in second position vul vs not.
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Posted 2009-October-30, 10:31

2H, but 3H is ok as well.

As long as both bids show a 6 carder, I dont think there is much
difference in the outcome.
After 3H I may feel more comfortable, if partner bids 4H at one point
in time, otherwise I may be forced to make at least one move toward
slam, ... given the amount of controls I have.
This consideration may already be enough to make 3H better than 2H.

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Posted 2009-October-30, 10:35

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Oct 28 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Jlall, on Oct 28 2009, 01:12 PM, said:

Yeah 6322 15 is almost always 2H. Agree with 3H on this hand though.

almost always 2♥!!! There you go downgrading again ;)

umm, I consider it an upgrade to bid 3H with 15 and that shape (obviously it's different if I have 7 hearts).

Seriously people are routinely bidding 3H with 15 and 6322?

If you are coming from an Acol background, than the answer is,
the cut off for a Acol is 15, i.e. you have to bid 3H with 15.
But than nearly all bids are lighter playing Acol compared to SA or 2/1.
And if I am right in my assesment, all post up to now, came from peoble,
who dont have a Acol background. I have, I learned Acol, as I started to
play.

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