[luis]

Scoring: IMP

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LHO opens 3c
Pd bids 3h
RHO bids 3NT

Your turn.

Scoring: IMP

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RHO You LHO PD
1h P 1N X
2c 2d 3c 3d
3h P P 3s
4c ?

What's going on ? Your bid? Do you agree with your previous bids ?

[Free]

1. Pass, all suits are split badly, so play them down. I don't think there's 4♥ for us, and 4♠ with my eyes closed is the only alternative, still, I don't like it...

2. What's going on? I have no idea... First our p bids a NF 3♦, now he comes up with a 3♠ bid. Probably a 4 card, and also support for 4-level ♦ contract. However, I think opps might have 5♣ and don't want to push them in that. Pass again.

[luke warm]

#1 i think i pass.. i believe they're making 3nt but what to do?

#2 i'm bidding 4S and if they bid 5C, 5D ) ... it's only a game

[the hog]

luis, on Jun 24 2004, 05:24 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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LHO opens 3c
Pd bids 3h
RHO bids 3NT

Your turn.

Scoring: IMP

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RHO You LHO PD
1h P 1N X
2c 2d 3c 3d
3h P P 3s
4c ?

What's going on ? Your bid? Do you agree with your previous bids ?

You have to be really careful with auction 1. This is a typical psyche situation, where respoder has a fit for C and is prepared to psyche 3N along the way - look at the vul here. I have a 7 count. Partner has at least 13 - I think rho is psyching. I am going to bid 4S on this hand. My S are pretty decent and 1 hon in partner's suit will solidify them. I think this will play better than 4H. Even if rho is not psyching, 4S figures to be a pretty decent spot.

2) I would have bid S on the previous round. Pd has a retty decent hand for this bidding. I am trying 4S. No, they won't make 5C.

[inquiry]

1) I bid 4♥. 4♠ appeals to me, but the problem with that bid, is partner will likely make another call if I do.

2) I pass. My partner bid 3!S to suggest a lead agaiinst 4!C or 4!H by my RHO. I will not punish him for it by biddign 4!S. I would have doubled 2!C for takeout, so we could end up in !ds or !s depending upon partner's whims.

Ben

[mishovnbg]

1. DBL: ♦ or ♠ with ♥ semi fit or strong. Rebid of 4♥ on expected 4♦ will show to my p that I will bid 4♠ but have ♥ semi fit too. DBL is passable because my bid of 4 level, but normally my p will pull my dbl.
2. Nothing strange, you p have ♦ support as well as 4♠. Passing on 3♥ is not good bid, because limited by previous free negative 2♦ bid hand. Need to bid 3♠ and you will not have problem of final decision. As long as you decide to not bid 3♠ you must also pass 4♣ to continue already taken direction. Worse p are these who change their mind all time during the bidding...
Misho

P.S. Ben, you can't dbl 2♣, because it will be penalty dbl if p's dbl on 1NT was take out...

[inquiry]

Misho,

Yes, on hand 1, double is a very good option, planning on pulling to 4♥ to show ♠ with a ♥ tolerance. Of course, the problem is partner may well pass the double (yes, I do play this as takeout). I suspect that EAST has a nice club fit, and who knows, they maybe able to run 7clubs, and heart ACE for down one while we have 10 sure tricks of our own.

As noted above where DBL of 3NT was takeout, essentially all my double are for takeout, as long as
1) We have not found an announced fit (our preempts establish fit without support)
2) An earlier double or redouble was not for penatly
3) The double does not have a conventional meaning

So, after

(1♥)-P-(1NT)-DBL
(2♣)-?

The dbl of 1NT was for takeout (we are not talking a conventional dbl here like we play), and opponent now bids 2♣. We have not found a fit, we have not made a penalty dbl or redouble, and a double of 2♣ has no conventional meaning. Therefore, I play double of 2♣ here as takeout. Interesting question, if the dbl of 1NT showed either a minor one suiter or a major two suiter, what would a my double show I wonder? I would still think "takeout", expecting you to leave in if your suit happened to be ♣'s.

Ben

[flytoox]

4S first hand is clear cut. Pd overcall 3H at adverse vul. and RHO bid 3N,he should have sth in H, so pd should have sth in S and D. I think 4S should have some play.

Second hand, I would bid 2S first round, then after 3C bid 3D if you like. As for over 4C what i would do, i bid 4S. Pd should have about 15-17hcp, and it seems pd is 4252, or 4243. If pd has SAK, and DAK, 4S should have play.

[luis]

Thanks for the answers!

First hand: Pd held: Ax, Kxxxxx, AJxxx, -
6d is down on a hA and h ruff lead. I think DBL is the best bid. At the table pd bid 4h over 3NT and it went pass, pass 4NT! pass pass 5d x all pass for +550. Both hands are difficult to bid after 3c and 3NT by opps.

Second hand:
Pd held AKxxx, x, Axxx, Kxx so 4s was cold and 4c was down 2.

Luis

[the hog]

"Second hand:
Pd held AKxxx, x, Axxx, Kxx so 4s was cold and 4c was down 2. "

I cannot understand this bidding at all with the given hand.

RHO You LHO PD
1h P 1N X
2c 2d 3c 3d
3h P P 3s
4c ?

X is a mistake unless it has some systemic meaning eg t/o of H and the partner's failure to bid 2S is an even bigger mistake.

[flytoox]

The_Hog, on Jun 26 2004, 12:15 AM, said:

"Second hand:
Pd held AKxxx, x, Axxx, Kxx so 4s was cold and 4c was down 2. "

I cannot understand this bidding at all with the given hand.

RHO You LHO PD
1h P 1N X
2c 2d 3c 3d
3h P P 3s
4c ?

X is a mistake unless it has some systemic meaning eg t/o of H and the partner's failure to bid 2S is an even bigger mistake.

agree, with this hand pd should overcall 1s then dbl later to compete.

[Trpltrbl]

1 ) X, 3 NT bidder is psyching on bunch of ♣ cards.

2 ) 4♠, pd has max hand with at least 4-4 in ♠+ ♦.

Mike