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Precision: 1C-(3Y)- Dbl Thrump dbl or major-oriented takeout ?

#1 User is offline   Chamaco 

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Posted 2004-June-26, 14:27

Hi all,
I am trying to define better and better strong club (16+) overcalled sequences, so here are 3 questions related to opps preempting at the 3 level.


In the version we play, 1NT opening = 10-12 bal , 13-15 bal are included in 1D opening, so the minimum strength for a balanced 1C is 16.


Thanks all !! :o
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CASE 1

1♣-(3Y)- ?

I know double shopuld not be playted as penalty nor as simple "cardshowing".
However, I have see 2 different approaches:

1) negative double as takeout major-oriented
2) "thrump double" à la Bergen, stopper asking )especially useful when preempt is in spades)

Which one do you recommend ?

Also, what should a cuebid mean ?

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CASE 2

1♣-pass-1♦(0-7)- (3Y)
?

What should double be here ?

Also, what should a cuebid mean ?
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CASE 3

1♣-pass-positive suit response- (3Y)
?

"Positive response" here is 1H/s or 2C/D showing 5+ cards and 8+ hcp.

What should double be here ?

[Broken Record] :ph34r: = what should a cuebid mean ?
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Posted 2004-June-28, 01:28

Hi Tiger!

Read about "Meta overcalls" here in forum. I will answer by examples:

1.
1♣ - (3♠) - ?

dbl: ♣ or ♦ or bal without ♠ stopper
3NT: to play
4♣: RF, ♣+♥
4♦: RF, ♦+♥
4♥: to play
4♠: slam try, 5+♥, unbalanced
4NT: slam try, ♣+♦

2.
1♣ - (p) - 1♦{negative} - (3♠)
?

dbl: ♣ or ♦ or bal hand without ♠ stopper
3NT: to play
4♣: RF, ♣+♥
4♦: RF, ♦+♥
4♥: to play
4♠: slam try, 5+♥, unbalanced
4NT: slam try, ♣+♦

3.
1♣ - (p) - 1♥{8+, 5+♥} - (3♠)
?

pass: penalty or take out
dbl: Garozzo 2/3 double - 2/3 cards in ♠, deny ♥ support
3NT: to play
4♣/♦: suit(values) + ♥ fit
4♥: to play
4♠: slam try, ♣+♦, ♠ control(shortness)
4NT: slam try, ♣+♦, deny ♠ control

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