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#1 User is offline   jdonn 

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Posted 2009-October-03, 13:32

K862 - AKJ3 AQ952
1♣ (1♠) P (P)
?
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Posted 2009-October-03, 13:42

jdonn, on Oct 3 2009, 02:32 PM, said:

K862 - AKJ3 AQ952
1♣ (1♠) P (P)
?

Okay, I'll bite but I don't gotta like it ....2♦ no doubt it is IMPS and colors are unfavorable :D
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Posted 2009-October-03, 13:45

Actually it was favorable at mps, but I was interested in answers for not just that particular situation.
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Posted 2009-October-03, 13:52

I am so tempted to pass this out -- I am not so sure i want to defend a heart partial here...
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Posted 2009-October-03, 14:08

matmat, on Oct 3 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

I am so tempted to pass this out -- I am not so sure i want to defend a heart partial here...

I might want to defend a heart PARTIAL if I reopen this.
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Posted 2009-October-03, 14:37

I pass. Licking my chops at 100 a trick. OK, I'll settle for a plus. :D

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Posted 2009-October-03, 15:17

yep. Often best to just count the spades I have. There are some hands with spade length which shouldn't pass it, but this is not one of them.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:04

The opponents appear to have 10+ hearts, or partner doesn't have much strength. If the latter it doesn't seem we have a fit anywhere and if the former, partner can be 4-3-x-x or 3-2-x-x etc. I don't think 2♦ is that bad but if the opponents do indeed have 10 hearts between them I'm not even sure if I can defeat 4♥ nor do I know if we'll have a good sac if partner is 3-2-x-x or a bad one if 4-3-x-x. I'm going to pass and defend.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:11

Pass - Rather defend spades than hearts.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:26

Another passer here.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 11:58

I would also pass
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Posted 2009-October-04, 13:39

Partner is maximum 7 points, so you are not going to miss a game unless he had a trap pass hand - highly unlikely. You have a good hand for defending and opps are in their wrong contract. Everything points to a pass.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 14:15

Does playing with and against gib change anything? That's where I got it.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 14:17

Pass.

Partner could have something like xx Qxx Qxxxx Kxx and we make 5♦ or maybe 3NT. But it's more likely they can outbid us in hearts. Of course if LHO has psyched and partner has a trap pass this could be a spectacular failure. If the vulnerability and opponent made psyching a decent possibility I might try 2♦.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 15:23

Pard is clearly weak with short spades. Opps might have a bucketload of hearts, but I'm gonna risk 2♦. Perhaps pard has

xx
JTxxx
Qxx
xxx

Opps are welcome to play 2♥ here...
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Posted 2009-October-04, 16:51

jdonn, on Oct 4 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

Does playing with and against gib change anything? That's where I got it.

Uh yes, because partner might have 5-card support and a singleton?
I would still pass though, especially as 2♦ is probably badly defined (i.e., as showing diamonds, not implying longer clubs).
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Posted 2009-October-05, 00:05

cherdanno, on Oct 4 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

jdonn, on Oct 4 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

Does playing with and against gib change anything? That's where I got it.

Uh yes, because partner might have 5-card support and a singleton?
I would still pass though, especially as 2♦ is probably badly defined (i.e., as showing diamonds, not implying longer clubs).

I don't think gib will have that but maybe I'm wrong? More that he would have some hands with 5 or 6 hearts and pass where I think doubling (if not bidding) is automatic.

Anyway I bid 2♦ (would pass 100% in real life), lho gib made a rather poor 2♥ bid on a mediocre 5422 hand, and partner was 2632 with KJT8xx of hearts and almost nothing else, so they were in trouble no matter what. They escaped relatively unscathed when rho gib went back to 2♠ on his 2344 and they went down 2 undoubled.
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