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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2009-October-03, 20:45

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Posted 2009-October-03, 22:03

I usually open 2 on this sort of hand.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 03:05

Hi,

I usually pass those hands, if you want to pass

a) open 2S, planning to bid clubs next (my parne likes to do this)
B) open 4S

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Marlowe

PS: It is a good idea to make up your mind in general, what you do
with weak distributional two-suiters, if you are first / second to open.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 03:26

P_Marlowe, on Oct 4 2009, 04:05 AM, said:


I usually pass those hands, if you want to pass

a) open 2S, planning to bid clubs next (my parne likes to do this)
:) open 4S

two-suiters, if you are first / second to open.

Option a) seems to me to be get the worst of both worlds : It misdescribes the hand and risks playing 2 when cold for 4 , or 5, or 6, and at the same time leaves room for opps to judge their actions.
The plan "to bid later" may often not work, for example if the auction proceeds 2-3-Pass- 4. Obviosly bidding 5 now has some disadvantages.

I would suggest selecting between :
a. Pass - planning to bid agressively later, and getting both suits into the picture.
(probably the "normal" choice).
b. Open 4, hoping that it is either a good contract, or that opps will bid too much.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 03:31

mich-b, on Oct 4 2009, 04:26 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Oct 4 2009, 04:05 AM, said:


I usually pass those hands, if you want to pass

a) open 2S, planning to bid clubs next (my parne likes to do this)
:) open 4S

two-suiters, if you are first / second to open.

Option a) seems to me to be get the worst of both worlds : It misdescribes the hand and risks playing 2 when cold for 4 , or 5, or 6, and at the same time leaves room for opps to judge their actions.
The plan "to bid 5 later" may often not work, for example if the auction proceeds 2-3-Pass- 4. Obviosly bidding 5 now has some disadvantages.

I would suggest selecting between :
a. Pass - planning to bid agressively later, and getting both suits into the picture.
(probably the "normal" choice).
b. Open 4, hoping that it is either a good contract, or that opps will bid too much.

Option a) is a style, which got advocated by Roth, in the end
it is a matter of personal taste.
I am not very familar, if the hand would 100% qualify.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2009-October-04, 05:11

4
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Posted 2009-October-04, 06:49

Don't
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:27

4
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:28

At favourable I'd be tempted with 4 but since we're w/w I'll go with 3. Really dislike pass when I can get my good suit in on the first go and let the opponents guess at the 4 level.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 10:30

4. Pard will have no idea what's important to raise 2 or 3. Plus, you'll have an achy feeling if they bid 4.
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Posted 2009-October-04, 11:12

4. I am not generally opposed to opening at the 2-level with 65 or 66 hands, planning to bid again, but here we would probably have to bid 5 over 4, bypassing our most likely par contract in 4.
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Posted 2009-October-06, 14:11

4 for me ..this sure looks like a freakish and preemptive hand. Lets deprive the opps of a routine auction.
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Posted 2009-October-06, 20:31

Pass can be a constructive bid and help move the auction forward later on. Why is the question always - what would you bid and not what would you do?
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