I am noticing more and more players NOT posting the convention card they play.
For examples, the default sayc card will be posted when the opps are playing 2/1 and when they have specific understandings such as odd even first sluffs, upside down count and or attitude, 3rd/5th leads.
Sometimes the opps make a general announcement (sometimes including just their system without mention of non-standard sluffs and leads). But often opps say nothing.
Yesterday I noted that one of the opponent's profiles listed odd-even sluffs, so at the start of the 2nd hand I asked if they were playing the default sayc card. no answer. So I asked privately of both opps the same question. no answer. So I asked again and finally one said no. They played 2/1. Ok, so I asked further, do you play standard leads and sluffs? This time I was told that they play odd/even and 3rd and 5th leads.
Ok fine. I received the information I needed this time. But what about the other pairs this pair plays?
What can or should be done? My partners and I have very complete convention cards including a full listing of lead patterns, in the spirit of full disclosure.
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ACBL tourneys--failure to post cc
#2
Posted 2009-October-02, 10:51
When you have this kind of proof from the opponents, call the TD and say that they are not playing the card they have posted. See what happens. If "nothing", then email the head of online tournaments for the ACBL (sorry, don't remember the address at the moment, but should be available with a quick search).
They go to the trouble (unlike in RL tournaments) to say "you must post a card, and if not, you're playing SAYC"; hold them to it!
They go to the trouble (unlike in RL tournaments) to say "you must post a card, and if not, you're playing SAYC"; hold them to it!
Long live the Republic-k. -- Major General J. Golding Frederick (tSCoSI)
#3
Posted 2009-October-02, 15:27
You can email anything acbl-related to acbl@bridgebase.com
that goes to Jacki, and drifts by my desk as well.
Uday
that goes to Jacki, and drifts by my desk as well.
Uday
#4
Posted 2009-October-03, 12:11
Ok thanks.
I did message the director about this incident and the director said I should just assume that the opps play the card posted and if I am damaged then report to the director and the director can see about an adjustment.
I didn't think this a satisfactory response.
Since I have the chat, I will send it and the situation to Jacki.
Thanks.
p.s. another incident about a week ago, same director. An opponent lead 5th best in a no trump contract. It didn't cause a problem, but I had noted in this person's "notes" area that he did this another time against me. And that time it DID matter. i reported this to the TD and he said that he would review hands for that player and thanked me for reporting. I appreciated the TDs response.
I did message the director about this incident and the director said I should just assume that the opps play the card posted and if I am damaged then report to the director and the director can see about an adjustment.
I didn't think this a satisfactory response.
Since I have the chat, I will send it and the situation to Jacki.
Thanks.
p.s. another incident about a week ago, same director. An opponent lead 5th best in a no trump contract. It didn't cause a problem, but I had noted in this person's "notes" area that he did this another time against me. And that time it DID matter. i reported this to the TD and he said that he would review hands for that player and thanked me for reporting. I appreciated the TDs response.
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