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partner is balancing with 1D What your bid
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Posted 2009-September-28, 19:21
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-September-28, 19:50
Double. If double is not penalty, pass and hope partner doubles.
You didn't give the conditions but I might do this even vul vs not at matchpoints.
You didn't give the conditions but I might do this even vul vs not at matchpoints.
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Posted 2009-September-28, 20:38
benlessard, on Sep 28 2009, 08:21 PM, said:
(pass)-----pass-----(1C)-----(pass)
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
1NT wtp?
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2009-September-28, 21:38
pooltuna, on Sep 28 2009, 09:38 PM, said:
benlessard, on Sep 28 2009, 08:21 PM, said:
(pass)-----pass-----(1C)-----(pass)
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
1NT wtp?
i guess then, when you double after the insufficient bid, partner is truly barred.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2009-September-28, 21:40
Is this a standard way to cheat? If you really want to make a penalty double, but your double is takeout, and your p may not make a takeout double? To make an insufficient bid, and then double?? I guess you'd only do it if you knew what contract you wanted to play aftr they ran and you didn't need your p's help to find out.
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Posted 2009-September-28, 22:14
pooltuna, on Sep 28 2009, 09:38 PM, said:
benlessard, on Sep 28 2009, 08:21 PM, said:
(pass)-----pass-----(1C)-----(pass)
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
1NT wtp?
If you mean last round, LOL at the bid. If you mean this round, LOL at the joke.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-September-29, 02:43
Quantumcat, on Sep 29 2009, 04:40 AM, said:
Is this a standard way to cheat? If you really want to make a penalty double, but your double is takeout, and your p may not make a takeout double? To make an insufficient bid, and then double?? I guess you'd only do it if you knew what contract you wanted to play aftr they ran and you didn't need your p's help to find out.
It's such an obvious way to cheat that you specifically aren't allowed to replace an insufficient bid with a double.*
[*OK, in some circumstances you can, but then the double isn't penalties]
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Posted 2009-September-29, 07:33
aguahombre, on Sep 28 2009, 10:38 PM, said:
pooltuna, on Sep 28 2009, 09:38 PM, said:
benlessard, on Sep 28 2009, 08:21 PM, said:
(pass)-----pass-----(1C)-----(pass)
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
(pass)------1D------(2C)-------???
87xx
Axx
Ax
AQ9x
1NT wtp?
i guess then, when you double after the insufficient bid, partner is truly barred.
exactly
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2009-September-30, 05:10
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Double. If double is not penalty, pass and hope partner doubles.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-September-30, 08:57
benlessard, on Sep 30 2009, 06:10 AM, said:
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Double. If double is not penalty, pass and hope partner doubles.
We have had this debate many times, and it is clear double as penalty or as takeout both have a lot of merit.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 19:49
jdonn, on Sep 30 2009, 09:57 AM, said:
benlessard, on Sep 30 2009, 06:10 AM, said:
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Double. If double is not penalty, pass and hope partner doubles.
We have had this debate many times, and it is clear double as penalty or as takeout both have a lot of merit.
Agreed...I am old enough to remember the old days when this would be penalty showing a hand like you hold that had no bid over 1♣ and wasn't strong enough for 1NT.
As far as being 5/4 in the majors for example, I overcall in a major on 65432 if my hand is almost opening bid strength or better so that isn't an issue for me or I might gamble a take out double if 44M with opening strength and 2♦.
While I could be 44M and have passed, I prefer penalty here as so many opps just rebid 2♣ on hands that should clearly pass.
IMHO, 2m contracts don't get whacked nearly enough and if the opps make it still isn't game.
Yes two sides to this argument but I double in either case with this good a hand.
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