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#1 User is offline   zheddh 

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Posted 2009-September-13, 22:50

You hold in 3rd seat all vulnerable the following hand

Scoring: IMP


Partner deals and opens 1NT showing 15-17 hcp, a balanced hand that could have a 5 card major, 5422 with 5 minor possible with some values in the short suits.

RHO passes and for the time being let's assume that you bid 2NT which a xfer to diamonds. Your LHO asks what 2NT means and then bids 3C which is explained as natural. Partner now bids 3D which means that he likes diamonds.

RHO now bids 3, explained as natural. Opponents are playing as partners for the first time and are not weak. Your call?

1NT - (p) - 2NT* - (3)
3 - (3) - ?
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Posted 2009-September-13, 23:01

Don't understand transfer to diamonds, what was I planning to rebid if the opponents remained silent?
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Posted 2009-September-13, 23:07

655321, on Sep 14 2009, 12:01 AM, said:

Don't understand transfer to diamonds, what was I planning to rebid if the opponents remained silent?

3NT if partner likes diamonds, else play 3D.
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Posted 2009-September-13, 23:29

3NT.
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Posted 2009-September-13, 23:30

3N probably, maybe double show an acceptance but not willing to commit to 3N?
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Posted 2009-September-14, 00:02

Just bid 1N-3N. You are always going to play 3N.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 00:14

Transferring to diamonds does not seem sensible to me. I transfer when I want to either a) play in 3D, b ) look for slam, or c ) look for game if partner is fitting. Here, with an aceless balanced hand and enough for game, I would bid a direct 3NT.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 06:34

Jlall, on Sep 14 2009, 01:02 AM, said:

Just bid 1N-3N. You are always going to play 3N.

Yeah that was what I was thinking too. Bid what you should have bid the first time.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 07:02

zheddh, on Sep 14 2009, 12:07 AM, said:

655321, on Sep 14 2009, 12:01 AM, said:

Don't understand transfer to diamonds, what was I planning to rebid if the opponents remained silent?

3NT if partner likes diamonds, else play 3D.

OH!!! so 2NT was actually a BAWK-BAWK transfer :)
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Posted 2009-September-14, 07:04

Jlall, on Sep 14 2009, 01:02 AM, said:

Just bid 1N-3N. You are always going to play 3N.

But that doesn't help the defenders. You need to provide as much information as possible to get the proper defense :)
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Posted 2009-September-14, 08:35

I would've just bid 1NT-3NT, don't understand why I'd want to signoff in 3... Partner can only be positive with Axx, he'll just bid 3 with Ax where you still have game (probably).
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Posted 2009-September-14, 08:40

If partner is saying I don't like diamonds any time he has xx, but accepting with xxx and Ax it seems like a good bid. Wich will avoid becoming a useless entryless dummy at trick 3 with a decent accuracy.

But partner likes it, so lets dance: 3NT.


In practice this inquirys have proven to me very bad in the past, I missed games where partner had AK, or AKQx, or an entry finese was onside. You are playing against the field and risk a lot.
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Posted 2009-September-16, 15:34

X.

And for what's it worth, I doubt that 3S only showes spade, he passed
over 1NT.

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Posted 2009-September-17, 04:06

3 NT is a bet that partner has enough black stoppers and a fit. Luckily I do not need to bet: I can double to show values and no clear stopper for 3 NT.

Without this ability I try 3 NT too.
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