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Posted 2009-September-14, 09:15

All IMPs - 8 board matches

1. ♠KQJx ♥Qxxxx ♦-- ♣Jxxx

opps are vul

(1♦) - 2♣ - (P) - 3♦;
(4♦) - 5♣ - (5♦) - P;
(P) - x - (P) - ?

2. ♠x ♥AKJxx ♦QT97 ♣xxx

no one vul - you are dealer.

a ) Do you open?
b ) If you open: Hidden:
Spoiler

c ) If you pass: Hidden:
Spoiler

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Posted 2009-September-14, 09:49

1. I would pass, not happy, but partner shouldn't have fit on any major and we can make tricks there.

2. Pass, 2♥, 4♥.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 11:04

2) yes open...now 4h with a stiff spade.


1) ya pass
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Posted 2009-September-14, 12:10

Hi,

#1 Pass
#2 No, invite

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Posted 2009-September-14, 12:22

1. I pass. Sometimes they make.

2. I wouldn't open in a standard 2/1 context, although it's close with the concentrated values. I would double at my next turn, not overcall.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 12:30

1. Pass. Does everyone agree with 3♦?

2. Pass first time. Then invite with 3♦. Partner has 4-5♠ so I'll go low.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 14:17

1. Pass, oh well.

2. I open, then I'll go with 3♦.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 14:52

1. Pass
2a) Pass
2b) Signoff
2c) Invite
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:07

1) Pass. If you want to bid 6C now why didn't you do it last time? All that has happened since then is partner expressing the view that you can beat 5D. It seems silly to pull a double, but defend undoubled (implying that you are willing to defend if partner does not think you can beat 5D, but unwilling to defend if partner does think you can beat 5D). I would have bid 6C the round before.

2) Yes I open. I bid 3D over 2S.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:18

I'll answer the 2nd one 1st.

I opened, but bombed this into game, since my singleton spade is sooo nice. If you invite, partner boosts anyway (I think).

I won't say the result, but is it clear to play a NV game with:

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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:24

If I pass first time around, I assume partner won't bid 2♠ with that, but will simply raise, right? He should have like a king more to bid 2♠ I think.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:27

jjbrr, on Sep 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

If I pass first time around, I assume partner won't bid 2♠ with that, but will simply raise, right? He should have like a king more to bid 2♠ I think.

Well, obviously I opened, and wanted to frame the problem if I passed, then overcalled, and then needed to make a bid game / invite / signoff decision.

I suppose what you are saying is that if you pass and pard bids 2♠ that this becomes an auto 4♥ call, which I agree with.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:30

Jlall, on Sep 14 2009, 04:07 PM, said:

Pass. If you want to bid 6C now why didn't you do it last time?

Good question - I have no idea. However, you have the chance to redeem yourself if you want, assuming pard's double was in tempo :lol:
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:50

Phil, on Sep 14 2009, 04:27 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Sep 14 2009, 04:24 PM, said:

If I pass first time around, I assume partner won't bid 2♠ with that, but will simply raise, right? He should have like a king more to bid 2♠ I think.

Well, obviously I opened, and wanted to frame the problem if I passed, then overcalled, and then needed to make a bid game / invite / signoff decision.

I suppose what you are saying is that if you pass and pard bids 2♠ that this becomes an auto 4♥ call, which I agree with.

Er? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I don't think this is a clear 4♥ bid at all if partner bids 2♠ and actually has his bid. I already said I'd bid 3♦, natural and invitational, assuming the auction went P (1♠) P (1N) 2♥ (P) 2♠ (P) ??

I'm saying if the auction went this way, I hate that 2♠ bid; it needs like a 4th trump or the ♥Q or something else.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:55

jjbrr, on Sep 14 2009, 04:50 PM, said:

I'm saying if the auction went this way, I hate that 2♠ bid; it needs like a 4th trump or the ♥Q or something else.

Yes, but, game is pretty close even when pard didn't have his bid, so if he invites and we accept, game has to be good, so I guess I disagree that we should make only a game try after 2♠.

Maybe I'm the one being unclear LOL.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 15:58

Seems like you are grossly overestimating how good game is on these cards
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Posted 2009-September-14, 16:22

Jlall, on Sep 14 2009, 04:58 PM, said:

Seems like you are grossly overestimating how good game is on these cards

Yeah, looks like it needs a 4th trump or ♥Q or s.th. else to be good!
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Posted 2009-September-14, 17:37

Phil, on Sep 14 2009, 04:18 PM, said:

I'll answer the 2nd one 1st.

I opened, but bombed this into game, since my singleton spade is sooo nice. If you invite, partner boosts anyway (I think).

I won't say the result, but is it clear to play a NV game with:

<!-- NORTHSOUTH begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table border='1'> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AJxxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> T8x </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> Kx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> QT </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AKJxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> QT9x </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> xxx </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- NORTHSOUTH end -->


Given I open 1h on these hands I expected much more for 2s.This is a simple constructive raise for me.
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Posted 2009-September-14, 18:14

Jlall, on Sep 14 2009, 04:58 PM, said:

Seems like you are grossly overestimating how good game is on these cards

No, just asking. Its thin - but how thin? Surely we'd want to be there vul.?
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Posted 2009-September-14, 18:44

Phil, on Sep 14 2009, 10:15 AM, said:

All IMPs - 8 board matches

1. ♠KQJx ♥Qxxxx ♦-- ♣Jxxx

opps are vul

(1♦) - 2♣ - (P) - 3♦;
(4♦) - 5♣ - (5♦) - P;
(P) - x - (P) - ?

2. ♠x ♥AKJxx ♦QT97 ♣xxx

no one vul - you are dealer.

a ) Do you open?
b ) If you open: Hidden:
Spoiler

c ) If you pass: Hidden:
Spoiler

1) I defend

2) no I don't open and I sign off
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