[pirate22]

As an individual-travelling various countries,and a BBO member and with time differences especially across USA Russia China Australia-i get totally confused as to times when Vu graph is on, in relation as to where i am

suggestion can we have always quoting GMT or display a time clock which all announcements revolve-also when one has logged on and persons total stated then convention c update and one is in---- could the clock be now displayed somewhere permantly as a feature

any further input fellow creatures regards

[matmat]

can we do it in PDT instead?

[MattieShoe]

matmat, on Sep 7 2009, 03:58 PM, said:

can we do it in PDT instead?

Include a timezone setting in profile, have system automatically adjust times to your local timezone. :-)

[uday]

We display vug start times in the local time zone of the visiting browser. If this does not seem to be the case for you, yell.

[TylerE]

Uday, I think he point was that as a frequent traveler his browser/PC are often not set to "local" time.

[uday]

i see.

What can we do? Show times in GMT (at user request, of course)?
or
also mention (for matches that are within a day or two) that the match is "XX hours from now" ?

With the exception of Roland Wald, I've don't think i've ever met anyone who could read GMT, but that might work, and might be easy to do.

uday

[matmat]

uday, on Sep 7 2009, 11:02 PM, said:

i see.

What can we do? Show times in GMT (at user request, of course)?
or
also mention (for matches that are within a day or two) that the match is "XX hours from now" ?

With the exception of Roland Wald, I've don't think i've ever met anyone who could read GMT, but that might work, and might be easy to do.

uday

i am not sure if this infringes on any privacy issues, but you could use the computer IP address to figure out the location.

[Mbodell]

I like putting the "how many hours from now the next match starts" and/or "the current time is" on the page because that works even if preferences are off or not right on the current machine.

[csdenmark]

uday, on Sep 8 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

i see. 

What can we do? Show times in GMT (at user request, of course)? 
or
also mention (for matches that are within a day or two) that the match is "XX hours from now" ?

With the exception of Roland Wald, I've don't think i've ever met anyone who could read GMT, but that might work, and might be easy to do.

uday

We can read it and understand it.

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

I think it still is so that american summer/winter time switches differently from at least Europe.

The present way using local browser time is the only well working solution, as Uday mentioned.

If someone is using a computer with uncorrect settings he has a personal problem.

[jandrew]

csdenmark, on Sep 8 2009, 09:58 AM, said:

uday, on Sep 8 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

i see. 

What can we do? Show times in GMT (at user request, of course)? 
or
also mention (for matches that are within a day or two) that the match is "XX hours from now" ?

With the exception of Roland Wald, I've don't think i've ever met anyone who could read GMT, but that might work, and might be easy to do.

uday

We can read it and understand it.

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

I think it still is so that american summer/winter time switches differently from at least Europe.

The present way using local browser time is the only well working solution, as Uday mentioned.

If someone is using a computer with uncorrect settings he has a personal problem.

GMT is a standard time, known all over the world, which never alters for winter/summer/daylight saving.

If you know the GMT time of an event - you need only adjust for your local time difference and for your local daylight saving shift ("DLS").

Events nominated by reference to any other time zone need more adjustment :
1. Who and what is your zone (CDT, EPT, WAT, EUT, what are all these ?) ?
2. What is the difference between our two zones ?
3. I know my DLS.
4. What is your DLS ?

Using GMT is easy - where's the problem ?

jandrew


(PS. If you can identify the 4 time zones above, give yourself 10/10)

[pirate22]

ty for replies--GMT its a pity no one from BBO has replied by that i mean management?
all airlines shipping and major rescue operations use GMT
one suggestion was why not give the start time of a match as in "10 hours time"? 10 hours from what? what is the base line----- hence GMT
with due respect BBO is american,and as a lot of things, it has to be done the american way-with total disregard to nations outside their borders.
that is why many many years ago, it was agreed by other nations including U.S.A
to adopt GMT so that there was no confusion, E.Bridge had the problem, but adopted the policy.
Perhaps it would confuse the American public to much regards

[kgr]

Maybe it helps to show the current date and time.
(I know this is your current computer time, but I can imagine that it clarifies things more if it shown in the browser).

pirate22, on Sep 9 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

ty for replies--GMT its a pity no one from BBO has replied  by that i mean management?

You mean Top Management, like the CEO?
(As far as I know, only 3 or 4 persons work at BBO and uday is one of them)

[gwnn]

csdenmark, on Sep 8 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

Not to Icelanders!

[BillHiggin]

pirate22, on Sep 9 2009, 02:16 AM, said:

ty for replies--GMT its a pity no one from BBO has replied by that i mean management?
all airlines shipping and major rescue operations use GMT
one suggestion was why not give the start time of a match as in "10 hours time"? 10 hours from what? what is the base line----- hence GMT
with due respect BBO is american,and as a lot of things, it has to be done the american way-with total disregard to nations outside their borders.
that is why many many years ago, it was agreed by other nations including U.S.A
to adopt GMT so that there was no confusion, E.Bridge had the problem, but adopted the policy.
Perhaps it would confuse the American public to much regards

If you want GMT, all you need do is set your computer to use GMT and that is what you will get from BBO as well. The rest of us will make our own choices.

[helene_t]

uday, on Sep 8 2009, 05:02 AM, said:

With the exception of Roland Wald, I've don't think i've ever met anyone who could read GMT, but that might work, and might be easy to do.

We British (and Portuguese) can read GMT, at least in the winter

kgr said:

Maybe it helps to show the current date and time.

Yes, BBO should come with a clock. Now we are at it, I would like BBO to feature a coffee machine, a toaster and a pair of slippers, too.

[Gerardo]

Not sure how to improve on current situation. Think local times are the way to go.

Don't think GMT is workable, how many people (on BBO at large) does know how much how far away from it they are? Any other fixed timezone (including US Eastern) is worse.

Perhaps Matmat's suggestion of using the given IP to find the timezone is workable, and would fix OP issue without having to check if the PC current timezone is the right one.

On DST, I think there is a special place in hell for whoever came up with the idea

[Ant590]

I wonder if flash has the ability to "look" what your computer thinks the time is and convert on the fly?

[csdenmark]

gwnn, on Sep 9 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

csdenmark, on Sep 8 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

Not to Icelanders!

I looked that up and you are correct. They looks not switching summer/winter. I assume they are situated so far north that the reason, saving power consumption, makes no real sense there.

Apart from their famous history it looks like Iceland has very little to offer useful to anybody. A great bridge system perhaps!

[MattieShoe]

csdenmark, on Sep 9 2009, 07:48 AM, said:

gwnn, on Sep 9 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

csdenmark, on Sep 8 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

Not to Icelanders!

I looked that up and you are correct. They looks not switching summer/winter. I assume they are situated so far north that the reason, saving power consumption, makes no real sense there.

Apart from their famous history it looks like Iceland has very little to offer useful to anybody. A great bridge system perhaps!

It's not clear that daylight savings actually saves on energy usage. In fact, some studies suggest it uses more energy. I wish they'd just do away with it entirely.

[csdenmark]

MattieShoe, on Sep 10 2009, 07:05 AM, said:

csdenmark, on Sep 9 2009, 07:48 AM, said:

gwnn, on Sep 9 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

csdenmark, on Sep 8 2009, 10:58 AM, said:

Because of summer/winter time switches GMT is today obsolete to ordinary persons.

Not to Icelanders!

I looked that up and you are correct. They looks not switching summer/winter. I assume they are situated so far north that the reason, saving power consumption, makes no real sense there.

Apart from their famous history it looks like Iceland has very little to offer useful to anybody. A great bridge system perhaps!

It's not clear that daylight savings actually saves on energy usage. In fact, some studies suggest it uses more energy. I wish they'd just do away with it entirely.

Bjørn Lomborg and the people gathering around Copenhagen Consensus perhaps. Nobody cares.

Reducing power is not the only purpose of summer time. It is generally good for human beings health to have most possible daylight. Summer time is helpful for that.

What I dont understand is why we do not have summer time all the year because even in winter we would have positive effects from that.