[allspice]

1) My MACROS (Keyboard Express) don't work in the Web Client. They work when only 1 sentence is involved, but when more than one, they all appear twice and with no new line. Is there a solution to that?

2) I was forced yesterday to upgrade my old Windows version, and now I don't have a GIB to adjust hands in the Windows version.
Can't find the GIB in the Web Client for the same purpose (adjust hands when TDing)

Thanks for any help you can give
Veru - allspice

[Nephin Mor]

Glad this came up. I found the GIB very useful too and miss it very much. Why was it removed from Show Board History menu but is still there when kibbing live play?

[uday]

We were forced to, for boring technical reasons, upgrade all users of the older windows version of BBO to the latest version --- which has a bug that prevents TDs from using the GIB button when looking at past results for a player.

This bug will be corrected in the next upgrade of bbo, which will happen after the WBF World Championship concludes ( about a week from now ). That upgrade is being tested as we speak. I don't want to risk an "incident" during the Vugraph show, or we'd upgrade sooner.

So hang in there until then....

Uday

[fred]

This bug was my fault (and was not created intentionally!) - sorry.

TDs may be interested in reading a post I made recently which includes my thoughts on the general concept of using GIB to help with adjusted scores:

Link to other thread

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[allspice]

I can't more than agree with Fred. If TDing in live tournaments I would NEVER EVER relay on a Gib (though I think they are great). But in BBO tournaments we have a little "issue": Some players, when a hand seems "not favourable"... tend to stall, so as to get and AVE (-3) which is FAR BETTER than opps winning a game or a slam, for eg.
So, a nice (ideal but impossible?) little feature would be a little "clock" on each player to see how long each partnership takes (like in chess...!) and "whose needle fell! Not realistic. So when running a tournament, we must adjusts unfinished hands to our best judgement so this "stallers" wouldn't get away with their purpose. The Gib, in my opinion, is not infalible, exactly for the reasons Fred mentions. But it gives us an approximate idea of a result. (I was ruled against by the Gib, after I claimed, and opps delayed acceptance, explaining a squeeze. The Gib didn't see it, though the TD finally did, half an hour after the tournament was over).
In my case I don't run big tournaments. Never more than 20 tables, clocked, IMPs, quick (6'x hand -I tried 5' but was hectic) and with no Kibitzers no lobby chat and only for players with full profiles. I can take some time to adjust. But when helping in clocked tournaments of about 200 tables, that is IMPOSSIBLE without the Gib. But, I don't always follow what the Gib says, I take a while to see if other line is possible.

Now, please, in my 1st post, there was another issue: My MACROS don't work on the Web Client. Furthermore, recently I noticed that I can't see lobby chat on the Web Client. nor even the tournament lobby chat when in one. It's only me?

Thank you
allspice - Veronica

[fred]

allspice, on Sep 13 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

Now, please, in my 1st post, there was another issue: My MACROS don't work on the Web Client. Furthermore, recently I noticed that I can't see lobby chat on the Web Client. nor even the tournament lobby chat when in one. It's only me?

Probably your MACROS will never work in the web-client unless the company that makes the software you use for this purpose addresses this issue. Maybe one day we will build something similar into the web-client itself.

There is no lobby chat in the web-client.

There is chat->tournament in the web-client, but there seem to be some issues in terms of who receives such chat messages. We are currently investigating and I suspect we will get this right in the next version.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com