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#1 User is offline   tkass 

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Posted 2009-September-03, 20:02

Scoring: IMP



west north east south

1di p 2di x
p 3nt p p
p

2 di is 6-9points

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Posted 2009-September-03, 20:24

I approve of double. 3NT outrageous overbid. Doubler if short of diamonds needs even less in hcp. I would have advanced 3 clubs. 2NT would be an overbid. I assume lebensohl does not apply.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 20:37

South's double is fine.

Only Lebensohl can explain North's 3NT instead of 2NT. It shouldn't apply over 2♦ but assuming you have agreed 2NT is Lebensohl I don't know what North should do. You could make a case for any of pass, 2♥, 2♠, 2NT, 3♣ and 3NT. Probably 2♥ leaving maximum room for someone else to make the hand their problem instead of yours. I doubt you would like playing 2♥ any better than you liked 3NT though.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 21:16

3NT is beyond bizarre.

I'm trying to figure out if it could make. If Decarer's LHO has Kx in hearts, that's 3 tricks. Two diamonds if the ace is right, for 5 total. A-K in clubs gets you to 7. Spade King right, for 8. Now, all you need is for spades to come in before the opponents set up diamonds (or spades).

What if Responder holds ♠10xx ♥Kx ♦J10xxx ♣Qxx? After, say, a diamond lead and back a diamond, Declarer finesses hearts and leads a spade toward the King. He will eventually end up winning two spades, three hearts, two diamonds, and two clubs. RHO never has an entry.

Excellent 3NT call. LOL
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Posted 2009-September-03, 21:18

kenrexford, on Sep 3 2009, 10:16 PM, said:

What if Responder holds ♠10xx ♥Kx ♦J10xxx ♣Qxx?

I rather doubt Opener has five hearts.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 21:54

I think south double is fine but prefer passing. Not having 44 in the M decrease significantly your chance of reaching a fit.

North 3nt is insane. There is no leb here.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 01:32

Only North is insane as South's x is perfect. I'd be content with 2NT.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 04:55

Phil, on Sep 3 2009, 10:18 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Sep 3 2009, 10:16 PM, said:

What if Responder holds ♠10xx ♥Kx ♦J10xxx ♣Qxx?

I rather doubt Opener has five hearts.

Maybe it's one of those really nebulous diamond openings?

Actually, kind of funny. I have opened 1♦ with 3532 shape playing canape. So, possible.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 05:46

I can think of at least 4 better calls than 3NT. Anyway thanks opps for no x.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 06:39

To me lebensohl applies, so 3 Club stands out a mile.

And if I would not play Lebensohl, then both 2 NT and 3 CLub would be fine. Where is the problem?
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Posted 2009-September-04, 07:19

You may, in fact, both be insane.

But back to the bridge problem.

The double was fine. The 3NT bid was crazy.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 09:06

Or to put it another way.....

North is out of his friggin mind if he thinks he can make 3N with this holding opposite what is a normal takeout double.
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Posted 2009-September-04, 10:03

Maybe you're insane and the 3NT was a delusion. :lol:

Or maybe pd is trying to drive you insane.
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