[Gweny]

So what do you prefer?

How do stratified games sound?

Can we interest you in 19ers, 299er, exhibition matches?

What do you want to see?

[luke warm]

matchpoints and i'd *love* to see strats... even tho i voted 16 boards, i'm not sure 12 isn't better.. no big deal either way...

[keylime]

Strats would be very nice. 0-300, 300-750/1000, infinity maybe?

[guggie]

For not native speakers it is hard to understand the specific Bridge-vernacular. neither is it to be found in a dictionary. Please - strats???

[Gweny]

Stratify...
to split into specific games base on number of ACBL masterpoints you hold.
:-)

[DrTodd13]

I thought it was this:

Stratified: everyone plays in the same session but masterpoint awards are allocated based on one's strata, i.e., how many masterpoints you currently have.

Strati-flighted: people are divided into different sections based on how many masterpoints you have and you don't play against people from different strata.
Often, flights B and C will be grouped together and flight A will play by itself. In this case, masterpoint awards are still stratified within the flight B/C sections.

Personally, I'd like to see 16 or 18 board tourneys with half MP and half IMP.

Todd

[hrothgar]

I've said it before, I'll say it again:

I want fully meshed movements in which a pair faces every other pair in their section. Anything else is far too much of a crapshoot.

Personally, I think that stratified tournaments are a complete waste of time.
International players will not have large numbers of master points.
Ergo, using master points for strafication will produce little or no value.

Master points are a marketing tool designed to increase the ACBL's revenue flow.
Pretending that they provide an accurate or even appropriate mechanism to rate skill levels is a grave dis-service to everyone.

[JRG]

As Gweny said, "strats" stands for "stratified <something or other>".

This is a form of event I'm not too keen on, however it works something like this:

You can hold tournament events that are restricted based on the participants' masterpoint holdings (supposedly some measure of playing ability - but for the most part nobody really believes that). Suppose you have three events: one for beginners, one for intermediates, and one for experts. Now instead of holding three separate events, you hold one event but the players (or pairs) are classified as beginner, intermediate, or expert.

The way a stratified event works is that you can win masterpoints by placing in the tournament event as if higher ranked (i.e. higher strata or "stronger") players (pairs) were not counted.

The added twist is that if you place well in a higher strata, you will get the masterpoints for that placing if they are more than what you would have got for your own strata. This sounds complicated, so here is an example:

The top strata must place in the section regardless of other players (i.e. they are not protected against "lesser" players). That is, if an intermediate places 3rd in the section, then too bad for the "experts" (no expert comes 3rd in their strata). If that intermediate player was first in his strata (i.e. exclude all the experts), then he gets the higher master point award of first in the intermediate or 3rd in the expert strata.

[dogsbreath]

Hi..
doesnt sound like much fun for those of us with zero ACBL master-points

..am i missing something??
Rgds Dog

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[helene_t]

dogsbreath, on Jun 15 2004, 07:34 AM, said:

doesnt sound like much fun for those of us with zero ACBL master-points 

I vote for an opportunity for converting American Masterpoints to European ones and vice versa, preferebly on the basis on the current dollar/euro rate

[Rain]

Dogsbreath:

Hello fellow dog, well I think you misunderstood. The strats seem to be aimed towards pleasing those with lesser masterpoints. You have 0 points, so if you win against higher pointed opponents, you get a ton of masterpoints ! You need to be acbl member though.

helene:

I hear that Italy tourneys will soon be held, and can offer erm, italian masterpoints? I would think it very odd if two different organisations start offering convertible points, unless there's some sort of world masterpoints....

just my thoughts

rain

[JRG]

Rain, on Jun 15 2004, 09:59 AM, said:

Dogsbreath:

Hello fellow dog, well I think you misunderstood. The strats seem to be aimed towards pleasing those with lesser masterpoints. You have 0 points, so if you win against higher pointed opponents, you get a ton of masterpoints ! You need to be acbl member though.

helene:

I hear that Italy tourneys will soon be held, and can offer erm, italian masterpoints? I would think it very odd if two different organisations start offering convertible points, unless there's some sort of world masterpoints....

just my thoughts

rain

I have a couple of WBF certificates. Do those count as "World masterpoints"?

[Gweny]

What about special invitational events ?

[Judy_]

I play at e-bridge and I like their movement which I think is fair.
The movement in e-bridge tournaments is swiss barometer – the pair in the first place is playing against the pair in the second place and so on. They have two tournaments, one is open and the other is for 299 and below. Also, if you have not finished a board when the alloted time for that round runs out, you still get to finish and then proceed to the next round late. If you get a certain number of minutes behind, then you have to skip a board. And you receive no score for the board that you did not play and it is not averaged in. And with the last round everyone gets to finish, the tournament is over when the last table finishes. Since you are never allowed to get too far behind, the tournament might end just a few minutes over the designated time.

[Rain]

Is it fairer to let those who are chronically slow remain unpunished or impose some form of penalty?