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Would you bid on?

Poll: what would you do now? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

what would you do now?

  1. pass (10 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  2. other (15 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

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#1 User is offline   andrei 

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Posted 2009-August-25, 12:27

IMP, you hold:

♠Txx
♥AJT9xx
♦x
♣Kxx

Partner deals and opens:

1♦ - pass - 1♥ - pass - 4♥ - pass - ??

Would you pass or bid on?
If you move on, what would you bid?
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Posted 2009-August-25, 12:32

Yes.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 12:39

4♥ is typically a weak 64 for me, with weak diamonds, obviously if partner has ♣Ax and ♦A slam will be playable, but if not....

I won't move.

But if moving, at first I though 5♣ was the right way to move on, so that partner knows his spade shortness is the key.

But now I think that the correct move is 4NT instead, partner might blow 6♥ of 2 aces otherwise based on good diamonds wich we don't care much about, and ♠Ax might be good enough to take care of the suit. Waht we really need is 3 cards from ♠A, ♥K, ♦A, ♣A. Partner won't ever know how worthless ♦KQJ ♥Q are
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Posted 2009-August-25, 12:40

If 5C is a cue and if you'd normally cue spades if you have a control there, I'd bid 5C, says everything at once, otherwise try RKC and hope partner doesn't show 2.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 14:21

Yes unless partner is one of those who will open one and then jump to game with weak distributional hands.

In my partnership this jump to 4♥ shows real values and denies a shortage. I have a few extra values and extra trumps which will be extra tricks.

The five-level should be safe and even it not is worth the risk of finding a good slam.

I bid 5♣ to deny a spade control and show a club control..
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Posted 2009-August-25, 14:41

If partner was weak and distributional, I would ask why the opponents are quiet.

I think its quite likely partner has the 4432 19 count.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 00:29

I agree that partners most possible hand is around a 3442 with around 19 HCPs.

So Akx, Kxxx,AKxx,Qx or similar makes slam quite good. KQJ, QJxx,AKQx,Jx puts 5 in danger.

Anyway, I make a move. But I am not sure which one. I guess I try RCKB. The chance that they can cash two spades seems to be lower then the chance that they can cash two KCs.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 01:24

I'm with the 5♣ crowd as the message seems clear: I'm interested in slam but have nothing is spades.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-August-26, 09:36

Yes I bid on. I have a 6th trump and Kxx to boot.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 16:58

:) Pass
This could be wrong, but I gotta play the percentages. Pard's ♥ Q is wasted as are his ♦ honors other than the ace (most likely). He didn't splinter or show solid ♦. Good partners almost never have a stiff on this auction. Even an old fashioned "point count" analysis gives me 11 or 12 "dummy points" opposite pard's 20 - not quite enough. I can construct hands where 6 is a flop:
AK
KQxx
J9xx
AQx
but it takes a bit of thought. As brother Bob says, "If it takes the magic hand to make slam, DON'T TRY FOR IT".
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Posted 2009-August-31, 17:26

LOL @ pass.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 17:38

5♣. Partner rates to have a 4432 19 count or something of the like.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 17:39

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Posted 2009-September-01, 07:48

I have passed, but I think I am convinced now that I should have bid on.

Anyway, this time pass was the winner, when partner had:

♠AKQJ
♥KQxx
♦ATx
♣xx

and the ♣ finesse was off.
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