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#1 User is offline   red dwarf 

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Posted 2004-June-08, 11:02

I have come across this hand from the U.S. nationals and the bidding is thus,
W.........N..........E............S
1♣......1♠......pass.......3NT?
pass... 6NT....end


West decided not to X as he didn't want ops running to 7♠ and leads the Q♣ expecting to punish ops bidding by taking the first 6 tricks, or so you would think, actually they make their 6NT, anyone care to guess how.
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Posted 2004-June-08, 11:05

Euhm, he switched to another suit :D But I have no idea why. Perhaps his partner didn't play a ♣ at trick 1?
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Posted 2004-June-08, 11:08

The answer lies here

http://www.timesonli...1137443,00.html

Shows the best players can do it too!

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Posted 2004-June-08, 13:32

If he droped the 6 of spade then partner can play anything he like (a minor penalty card)
only if he played the spade (like he thought the lead was a spade) then its a major penalty card.
also if he drops or play the 10 of spade its always a major penalty card.
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Posted 2004-June-09, 02:41

N/S misbid. They should have been in 7NT. If 7NT has the same odds of making as 3NT or 6NT, you might as well go for the top score B)
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Posted 2004-June-09, 04:31

can the opening leader claim 6 tricks before his pd play the card? this can avoid it.
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Posted 2004-June-09, 04:32

I also think the declarer is lack of sports spirit.
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Posted 2004-June-09, 05:49

flytoox, on Jun 9 2004, 05:32 AM, said:

I also think the declarer is lack of sports spirit.



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Posted 2004-June-09, 16:04

flytoox, on Jun 9 2004, 04:32 AM, said:

I also think the declarer is lack of sports spirit.

The rules provide for a lead penalty in the event a major penalty card is on the table. That's what happened. It is entirely within the spirit of the game to follow the rules and expect the statutory penalty to be imposed.
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Posted 2004-June-09, 16:28

flytoox, on Jun 9 2004, 08:32 PM, said:

I also think the declarer is lack of sports spirit.

No this is perfectly legitimate. I would certainly do it too.
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Posted 2004-June-10, 04:45

:-)))

Andrew Robson's column in the Times (UK) is really worth reading.

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Posted 2004-June-10, 16:36

What is the url? I spent 10 minutes looking for this to no avail.
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Posted 2004-June-10, 16:42

It's available, I don't have troubles with it. It's saved as a GIF file, just have to click on the small picture or the following link:

http://images.thetim...,,129353,00.gif
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Posted 2004-June-27, 13:42

Must not have played a ♣ at trick 1.

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