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#1 User is offline   WesleyC 

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Posted 2009-August-27, 09:19

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(2♥*) P (P) ???

*5+H, 8-11 HCP.

Holding:
♠A7 ♥AQ732 ♦QT ♣K753

What's your call?

If this hand isn't worth 2NT, how much more would you need? (assuming the same shape)
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Posted 2009-August-27, 09:25

Pass looks clear. We hold their best suit, everyone is vulnerable, so we are chalking up 100's for unders.

To me, its less a matter of strength than it is shape. I'm not sure I'd balance with this pattern unless I held a monster. Take away a heart and this is an easy 2N call.

Is this a Bailey 2? Then pass looks even easier, since LHO usually has defense.
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Posted 2009-August-27, 09:59

Hellll no. Partner couldn't make a noise when he's likely to be short in hearts and I'm happy to take the 100 unders. Lefty's shown 8-11 so it's possible that noone can make anything. For me to bid I would probably prefer more intermediates or maybe just the ♥A elsewhere.
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Posted 2009-August-27, 11:54

what Phil says, better spots and a bit stronger hand for reopening. I don't like the intermediates, and they are gonna play a role in 3NT.
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Posted 2009-August-27, 12:02

Agree with "almost never balance with this shape"
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Posted 2009-August-27, 12:11

WesleyC, on Aug 27 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

All Vul @ IMPs

(2♥*) P (P) ???

*5+H, 8-11 HCP.

Holding:
♠A7 ♥AQ732 ♦QT ♣K753

What's your call?

If this hand isn't worth 2NT, how much more would you need? (assuming the same shape)

2NT works for me. Partner will put us in game with 9+ or more. Of course many here will say that with 9+ or more and what is clearly a short ♥ holding partner would have Xed so this is a clear pass :)
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Posted 2009-August-27, 12:17

pooltuna, on Aug 27 2009, 06:11 PM, said:

WesleyC, on Aug 27 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

All Vul @ IMPs

(2♥*) P (P) ???

*5+H, 8-11 HCP.

Holding:
♠A7 ♥AQ732 ♦QT ♣K753

What's your call?

If this hand isn't worth 2NT, how much more would you need? (assuming the same shape)

2NT works for me. Partner will put us in game with 9+ or more. Of course many here will say that with 9+ or more and what is clearly a short ♥ holding partner would have Xed so this is a clear pass :)

The real problem is: you have no suit to play the 3NT on, everything is offside for you, partner is gonna lay down his 4153 or 4252 dummy hand and you will quickly find this is a hopeless contract.
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