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#21 User is offline   the hog 

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Posted 2009-August-25, 18:18

X. Don't mind 1S too much either. Pass is very soft.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 19:24

MickyB, on Aug 25 2009, 06:19 AM, said:

Dealer: East
Vul: N/S
Scoring: IMP
♠ Axxxx
♥ ATxx
♦  
♣ JTxx
RHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl?

The old standards to go by is that you need 11pts to double in Direct seat for a takeout double that your partner can respond in a suit at the one level so.....1s for me....

If you prefer double here, npp.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 19:41

mike777, on Aug 26 2009, 01:24 PM, said:

MickyB, on Aug 25 2009, 06:19 AM, said:

Dealer: East
Vul: N/S
Scoring: IMP
♠ Axxxx
♥ ATxx
♦  
♣ JTxx
RHO opens 1♦. Do you bid 1♠ or dbl?

The old standards to go by is that you need 11pts to double in Direct seat for a takeout double that your partner can respond in a suit at the one level so.....1s for me....

This isn't a bad standard however at all levels the presence of a void creates addtional licence to act a little lighter.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 20:47

I am doubling here as I have 4 card support for the unbids and my ♠ aren't terribly strong.
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Posted 2009-August-25, 23:12

nigel_k, on Aug 25 2009, 04:00 PM, said:

Double. And I am usually the one bidding my suit when most other people are doubling.

heh, funny I feel the same way.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 01:36

For me:

X = 10
1S = 9
P = 2
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Posted 2009-August-26, 09:35

I'm a doubler.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:21

I swear we had an almost identical hand on here a few years ago.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:28

This is a double to me. We might be getting shot right out of the water on the next bid so we should get things in. It's basically a one bid-hand. People who bid 1S now and take an action later are misstating the overall strength.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:31

kfay, on Aug 26 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

  It's basically a one bid-hand.  People who bid 1S now and take an action later are misstating the overall strength.

While people who double directly are not? B)
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:35

mich-b, on Aug 26 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

kfay, on Aug 26 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

  It's basically a one bid-hand.  People who bid 1S now and take an action later are misstating the overall strength.

While people who double directly are not? B)

I'm not sure what you're saying.

BW Standard stipulates a t/o double of 1C as " ♠A x x x ♥A x x x ♦Q x x x ♣x

is a minimum takeout double of one club with neither side vulnerable."

Everyone knows that with good shape you don't need an opening hand. I really don't see what your argument is. Maybe you think this hand is worse than that hand and the vulnerability makes a difference. Personally I think this hand is a better hand and the vulnerability doesn't mean a whole lot to me.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:41

mich-b, on Aug 26 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

kfay, on Aug 26 2009, 11:28 AM, said:

  It's basically a one bid-hand.  People who bid 1S now and take an action later are misstating the overall strength.

While people who double directly are not? B)

Correct.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 10:51

I doubled at the table and thought it clearcut, was suprised how many good players who I asked preferred 1♠. You really want to invite partner to bid a suit while the auction is still at a low level, which will leave you well-placed.

The auction proceeded

1♦-X-1♥-2♥
3♣-3♥-5♦-X
all pass

What would you lead?
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Posted 2009-August-26, 11:03

♠Ace. Much less likely to be ruffed than ♥A. When partner doubles it is usually good to cash your own tricks fast.
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Posted 2009-August-26, 12:31

MickyB, on Aug 26 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

I doubled at the table and thought it clearcut, was suprised how many good players who I asked preferred 1♠. You really want to invite partner to bid a suit while the auction is still at a low level, which will leave you well-placed.

The auction proceeded

1♦-X-1♥-2♥
3♣-3♥-5♦-X
all pass

What would you lead?

Please explain the auction to me. My LHO's 1♥ bid was natural, correct?

What does my partner's 2♥ bid mean?

The answer to my previous question may answer this one, but what does my 3♥ bid show?
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Posted 2009-August-26, 12:36

ArtK78, on Aug 26 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

MickyB, on Aug 26 2009, 11:51 AM, said:

I doubled at the table and thought it clearcut, was suprised how many good players who I asked preferred 1♠. You really want to invite partner to bid a suit while the auction is still at a low level, which will leave you well-placed.

The auction proceeded

1♦-X-1♥-2♥
3♣-3♥-5♦-X
all pass

What would you lead?

Please explain the auction to me. My LHO's 1♥ bid was natural, correct?

What does my partner's 2♥ bid mean?

The answer to my previous question may answer this one, but what does my 3♥ bid show?

lol
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Posted 2009-August-26, 13:17

Jlall, on Aug 26 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

lol

shift key broken?
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Posted 2009-August-26, 13:29

ArtK78, on Aug 26 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

Please explain the auction to me.

Our double of 1♦ was for takeout. The other ten calls were natural.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-August-26, 13:32

matmat, on Aug 27 2009, 07:17 AM, said:

Jlall, on Aug 26 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

lol

shift key broken?

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Posted 2009-August-26, 18:25

♠A for me, seems fairly clear. It's not that I like the lead so much, I just hate everything else.
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