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#1 User is offline   Cascade 

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Posted 2009-August-23, 01:12

Scoring: IMP

PASS (3♦) 3♥ (PASS)
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:08

3♠, since my failure to preempt makes it unlikely that I have 6 so partner will try to avoid raising on 2. If I were not a passed hand, I would bid 4♥.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:16

3NT
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:38

I like helene's reasoning, but spades are too bad, 4 hearts.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:52

I like Helenes reasoning and would be quite sure that my partner will play me for a 5 card suit and that he would hope for heart tolerance.. And if his spade support happens too be 235 we may still make game....
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:59

I like Helenes reasoning and also bid 3♠. I hope partner will bid 3NT with some kind of ♦ stop.
Very possible that 3NT will be the only contract we can make, but partner will need a stop for it.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 03:59

Nice problem... I would bid 4♥ I guess.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 04:37

I don't like this hand - the spades are so weak and if we play in H and they lead a D I don't have many entries left so my clubs may not be that useful. rho reckons to have spade and heart honours over my partner. If p had a good hand with a good H suit she/he could have bid 4S. pass.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 04:47

4H. S are not good enough to bid 3, particularly as the pre empt augurs bad breaks.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 05:27

4♥.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 05:40

3NT, second choice 4♥.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 05:43

I'm too scared to bid a suit topped by 9 :). 4♥ for me
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Posted 2009-August-23, 07:49

4♥, Im not mentioning those tatty ♠'s.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 09:22

Cascade, on Aug 23 2009, 02:12 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

PASS (3♦) 3♥ (PASS)
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4♥ and pass are about equiprobable to be right so 4♥
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Posted 2009-August-23, 10:02

I think pass is very pessimistic. We have ten working points and tolerance for partner's suit, and partner has made a constructive bid although we are a passed hand.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 11:12

4♦ choice of games. I think that's best for a passed hand.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 11:33

I like 4♦.

Until I saw gwnn's post, I would have bid 4♥. But 4♦ is the best of all worlds - it brings spades into the picture but not with the same emphasis as a 3♠ bid would do, it shows heart tolerance, and it also shows that I have a great hand on the auction, just in case partner has any slam ambitions (unlikely, but never say never).
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Posted 2009-August-23, 12:11

This is a near perfect hand for 3S. It show 5S and either a H tolerance or a D stopper or "edited" black 5-5.

If partner ...

pass = not likely but we should be ok
3Nt = easy pass (i hope people realized that its possible 3Nt is the only makeable game)
4C = ill bid 4H to tell him i have tol in H and not 5-5 in the blacks.
4D COG = easy 4H
4H = easy pass
4S = he will have 3 or 4 card support so im happy. Sure its possible 4H in 6-2 plays better but a sure fit is a sure fit.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 12:11

I really doubt 4♦ COG is a mainstream treatment here, it's definitely far from standard. With a pick-up expert I'd expect it to be a strong raise to 4♥.
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Posted 2009-August-23, 12:14

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I really doubt 4♦ COG is a mainstream treatment here, it's definitely far from standard. With a pick-up expert I'd expect it to be a strong raise to 4♥.


Agree 100%
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