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Suitplay's line loses to Jx offside but picks up x and xx offside. That does seem rather better. I think I was talking about how to play 109xx opposite AQx, though it's possible that I wasn't talking about anything at all.
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Posted 2009-August-17, 16:15
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-August-17, 16:32
After looking at this hand many times I think:
-If partner has Qs opposite AK we are ok, if he has Js we are in trouble.
-If partner has ♠10 we are ok, if he doesn't we are in trouble.
-If partner's doubleton is diamonds we are in trouble.
But having ♠10 or Queens and not Jacks is more like a matter of luck, sure he might have upgraded or downgraded his way through, but evaluating this is like fliping many coins.
-If partner has Qs opposite AK we are ok, if he has Js we are in trouble.
-If partner has ♠10 we are ok, if he doesn't we are in trouble.
-If partner's doubleton is diamonds we are in trouble.
But having ♠10 or Queens and not Jacks is more like a matter of luck, sure he might have upgraded or downgraded his way through, but evaluating this is like fliping many coins.
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Posted 2009-August-18, 01:32
Fluffy, is there any 2344 16-count where you would accept partner's slam try?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-August-18, 01:37
gnasher, on Aug 18 2009, 12:15 AM, said:
Suitplay's line loses to Jx offside but picks up x and xx offside. That does seem rather better. I think I was talking about how to play 109xx opposite AQx, though it's possible that I wasn't talking about anything at all.
Indeed it is (but 46% says sp). Thanks for the ostensibly sidetracking comment, now I learned something from this thread
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Posted 2009-August-18, 08:27
We have AKAK, the Q in partner's suit, and several good pips. Moving seems obvious to me.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-August-18, 08:43
gnasher, on Aug 18 2009, 07:32 AM, said:
Fluffy, is there any 2344 16-count where you would accept partner's slam try?
without 5 card minor it would take 2 spade honnors (10 included), and maybe ♠Kx.
something odd outside such as AQJ10 in a minor maybe good enough.
when I said I didn't accept I didn't look very deep, now I am more like 50-50, it is just very random.
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Posted 2009-August-18, 11:24
655321, on Aug 19 2009, 02:27 AM, said:
We have AKAK, the Q in partner's suit, and several good pips. Moving seems obvious to me.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Whoops that was an error
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Posted 2009-August-18, 11:26
Cascade, on Aug 18 2009, 10:24 AM, said:
655321, on Aug 19 2009, 02:27 AM, said:
We have AKAK, the Q in partner's suit, and several good pips. Moving seems obvious to me.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Whoops that was an error
Thats your first isnt it?
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Posted 2009-August-18, 13:20
jillybean, on Aug 19 2009, 05:26 AM, said:
Cascade, on Aug 18 2009, 10:24 AM, said:
655321, on Aug 19 2009, 02:27 AM, said:
We have AKAK, the Q in partner's suit, and several good pips. Moving seems obvious to me.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Unless this is a trick question - we can't move, because in the original diagram there are 3 passes to conclude the auction.
Whoops that was an error
Thats your first isnt it?
"Nearly dropped one" as we jugglers say.
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon