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Style of overcalling III "modern" balanced mini-T/O doubles

Poll: Do you double with a 4333 ? (52 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you double with a 4333 ?

  1. I double (34 votes [65.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.38%

  2. I pass and await further developments (12 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  3. I interfere with 1[HE] despite my poor shape (6 votes [11.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.54%

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#1 User is offline   vincit 

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Posted 2009-August-15, 00:26



What is your bid after RHO opens 1♣?

Would you double with any 4333 14HCP and 4 hearts if RHO opens 1♠?
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Posted 2009-August-15, 00:37

I double.

1♥ is a close second.

I would double with most 3=4=3=3 14s over 1♠. The hands that I wouldn't double would have minor honours in spades.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 00:38

1H for me, though I know some like to double on this shape.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 00:45

This one is pretty close to anything is not that unreasonable.

My style ranks them as follows:

P = 10
1♥ = 9
X = 8
1NT = 7
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Posted 2009-August-15, 01:52

Easiest double in the world. I'd double even with Kxx AKJx Jxx xxx.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 02:20

I double.

Make it Kx AKJx QTxx J9x and I overcall 1♥.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 02:31

1♥, but pass is a close second.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 03:14

Double for sure. I'm not even considering 1♥, when I have adequate length in all three suits. My lower limit with this shape is about 12 hcp here - I'd double some 12's and pass some 12's.
Had the opening been 1♠ I would generally need 13 hcp to double with 3433.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 05:21

I double as well, with something like ♣KQx I might think about 1 heart or pass if a bit weaker.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 05:27

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Posted 2009-August-15, 21:50

I Dbl.
4333 shape is awful so I wouldn't Dbl except with 14+ when the hand is not suitable for a NT overcall either by range, by no stoppers, by concentration of values in two suits, or some such combination. Some suitable 13HCP hands are included.
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Posted 2009-August-16, 00:14

x.

Remove the Q♦ and its pass.
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Posted 2009-August-16, 15:17

Slightly prefer 1♥ to double. Would not pass.
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Posted 2009-August-16, 19:19

vincit, on Aug 15 2009, 01:26 AM, said:



What is your bid after RHO opens 1♣?

Would you double with any 4333 14HCP and 4 hearts if RHO opens 1♠?

prefer x, I try to use 4 card overcalls as last resort, not first.
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Posted 2009-August-16, 20:51

Double. 1♥ is not terrible on such a good suit, but I do have support for both spades and diamonds (and clubs!) and a good hand, so I double.
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Posted 2009-August-17, 01:32

Meh. Call me old-fashioned but I prefer more shape-specific takeout doubles. 1♥ for me with this decent suit. 2nd choice pass.
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