[Jlall]

imps w/w

Jx xx AJx AKJxxx

Starting on left:

P P 1S 2C
2H X p ?

First time partnership, partner is a very good expert, most doubles in competitive auctions are cards.

[Phil]

3♣. I'm cornered into it. I would hope with stops in both majors, pard would help out with 2N.

[shyams]

3C.
Partner is a passed hand; it seems unlikely that we make 9 tricks in NT

[Apollo81]

2♠, if I can get partner to bid 2NT then I'll bid 3, else I'll let it go in 3♣.

[kenrexford]

2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values).

[karlson]

3♣, my hand isn't that good.

[kenrexford]

karlson, on Aug 10 2009, 03:58 PM, said:

3♣, my hand isn't that good.

In the context of Justin's usual overcalls, this is a monster. LOL

[Apollo81]

kenrexford, on Aug 10 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values).

Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits.

[Echognome]

Is partner's double snapdragon? In that case, I want to bid 3♦. Else, I will bid 3♣.

[karlson]

Echognome, on Aug 10 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

Is partner's double snapdragon? In that case, I want to bid 3♦. Else, I will bid 3♣.

I think if we have an 8-card fit in both minors, clubs is very likely to be the better spot.

[Echognome]

karlson, on Aug 10 2009, 01:10 PM, said:

Echognome, on Aug 10 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

Is partner's double snapdragon?  In that case, I want to bid 3♦.  Else, I will bid 3♣.

I think if we have an 8-card fit in both minors, clubs is very likely to be the better spot.

Agree, except this helps partner evaluate better if we have more on.

[OleBerg]

2♠.

Only cue beneath 3♣. Simply shows extras.

Edit: Should partner bid 2NT, I'll go back to 3♣. I have already shown that game is possible facing a passed hand. If partner has a hand suited for it, he will bid game.

[Hanoi5]

3♣, my partner passed first.

[aguahombre]

My partner would have AXXX KQTXX XX X. We only "SNAP" at the one level. Double to show cards doesn't seem necessary on this auction. No opponent fit is guaranteed and a hand with a support double would support wouldn't it?

[quiddity]

Tempted to bid 2NT (assuming the agreement that 2N here is never natural). I don't think my hand is good enough for a cue-bid, and I'm a little worried about partner having long diamonds and short clubs.

[WesleyC]

3C.

Partners x (rather than 2NT) must suggest diamond values so 3NT seems unlikely. And with 22 in the majors 5m is a long way away. With Jxx x AJx AKJxxx i'd bid 2S.

[Fluffy]

Happy with just 3♣ but my 2♣overcalls are stronger than anyone else's

[Free]

3♣

[kenrexford]

Apollo81, on Aug 10 2009, 04:07 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Aug 10 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

2♠.  Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop.  More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values).

Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits.

This may be backwards logic, but to my way of thinking I show stoppers when I can bid both stoppers at the same level but ask for my RHO's suit if I can only bid one below the next safe notrump level.

In this sequence, then, 2♠ asks for Opener's suit to be stopped, because it is to my right and because I only have one call below 2NT (and more precisely below three of parter's suit). If I had been somehow able to bid 2♥ OR 2♠, then I would show.

In another manner of speaking, I show not when they have bid two suits but when I can bid both of their suits economically. I ask when I can only bid one of their suits economically.

[xcurt]

I could make 3NT opposite as little as J9xx, Kxxx, Qxx, xx if everything sits well so I have to do more than just bid 3C right now. I think 2S is clear.

I don't think 2S necessarily promises a spade stop since there is a lot of room between where we are now and 3NT.