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Posted 2009-August-01, 03:45
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Posted 2009-August-01, 04:31
4NT shows minors but this hand is strong enough to bid 5♦ if that is natural. I am looking forward to Ken Rexford's comment. In the meantime I bid 5♦ and respect partner's signoff (or maybe he passes 5♦, I don't think it's forcing). No quite strong enough for 5♥ or 5NT, I think.
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Posted 2009-August-01, 04:38
4NT shows the minors. You sure, because I am not? I would not be surprised if partner took this as Bw unless specifically discussed. Anyway, I am going to bid 6C. C will play at least as well as Ds here and maybe better.
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Posted 2009-August-01, 07:31
5NT, pick a slam.
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Posted 2009-August-01, 07:33
Torn between 5♠ and 6♣
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Posted 2009-August-01, 07:44
cnszsun, on Aug 1 2009, 04:45 AM, said:
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Will partner ask himself why you bid 5♥ instead of 4NT?
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Posted 2009-August-01, 08:03
After 5♥'s I think you will be in a ♠ slam, I'd rather keep the minors in the picture a little longer.
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Posted 2009-August-01, 09:42
I opened 1♦ and I am bidding 6♣.
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Posted 2009-August-01, 11:04
Fluffy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:42 AM, said:
I opened 1♦ and I am bidding 6♣.
no reason to distort the minor suit lengths with this powerful hand. Little reason to believe the auction would get quite this high, this fast. Opening 1D doesnt really help in the the auction that occurred, except to get us to the wrong strain if pard is 2 2 in the minors.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 07:44
After an auction like this I can only imagine playing in ♣ or ♠ and since I have 2 spades why look further?
I would play 4nt as BW, 5♣ to play (hate spades), 5 ♦ ♥ as cues agreeing ♠. I can't see any point bidding 5♦ since I have ♥ control too so I will bid 5♠ asking p to bid 6 with a decent hand - say he might be void in clubs and semi-solid spades or solid spades
I would play 4nt as BW, 5♣ to play (hate spades), 5 ♦ ♥ as cues agreeing ♠. I can't see any point bidding 5♦ since I have ♥ control too so I will bid 5♠ asking p to bid 6 with a decent hand - say he might be void in clubs and semi-solid spades or solid spades
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Posted 2009-August-04, 07:59
6♣
You can easily be off A♣ and a club ruff in 6♠, or A♣ and a spade loser, or even two spade losers, when 6♣ was making all along.
When forced to guess, I'm after the best result possible, not the best possible result.
You can easily be off A♣ and a club ruff in 6♠, or A♣ and a spade loser, or even two spade losers, when 6♣ was making all along.
When forced to guess, I'm after the best result possible, not the best possible result.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 08:42
aguahombre, on Aug 1 2009, 05:04 PM, said:
Fluffy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:42 AM, said:
I opened 1♦ and I am bidding 6♣.
no reason to distort the minor suit lengths with this powerful hand. Little reason to believe the auction would get quite this high, this fast. Opening 1D doesnt really help in the the auction that occurred, except to get us to the wrong strain if pard is 2 2 in the minors.
It will help when you are 4-6, bid 4NT and partner doesn't pick diamonds with 3-1 or 3-2 in the minors
It is just my style, I don't mean it to work on every hand, if I opened 1♣ on this hand it would be to hide the diamonds forever. It might be a good idea but I wouldn't do it anyway.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 13:53
6♣ is a very reasonable call.
I have a 3 loser hand opposite a partner who bid freely at the 4 level. I believe that we have play for slam.
It would be very unlucky if 6♦ or 6♠ makes but 6♣ fails. My club suit is playable even opposite a void (but I hope for one or two in partner's hand), and I expect that between spades and diamonds I can make the rest of the tricks.
Question for all of the 4NT bidders - if partner bids 5 of a minor, do you pass?
I have a 3 loser hand opposite a partner who bid freely at the 4 level. I believe that we have play for slam.
It would be very unlucky if 6♦ or 6♠ makes but 6♣ fails. My club suit is playable even opposite a void (but I hope for one or two in partner's hand), and I expect that between spades and diamonds I can make the rest of the tricks.
Question for all of the 4NT bidders - if partner bids 5 of a minor, do you pass?
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Posted 2009-August-04, 13:55
Am I going crazy? 4N is KEYCARD!
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Posted 2009-August-04, 14:57
Jlall, on Aug 4 2009, 02:55 PM, said:
Am I going crazy? 4N is KEYCARD!
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Posted 2009-August-04, 18:57
Jlall, on Aug 5 2009, 02:55 AM, said:
Am I going crazy? 4N is KEYCARD!
No you are not going crazy. Some posters have a Lewis Carrol approach to bidding - a bid means what I want it to mean.
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Posted 2009-August-04, 19:45
Fluffy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:42 AM, said:
I opened 1♦ and I am bidding 6♣.
I know, what's with these youngsters today reversing on only 15 points!?
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Posted 2009-August-05, 06:13
Fluffy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:42 AM, said:
I opened 1♦ and I am bidding 6♣.
This is bad. Do not distort your shape with strong hands.
1D with 5-6 minors is fine if your hand is minimum.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 07:38
6 ♣ at team, 5 NT at mps.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 10:56
Jlall, on Aug 4 2009, 02:55 PM, said:
Am I going crazy? 4N is KEYCARD!
You are not going crazy. Not recently anyway.
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