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  Posted 2009-August-14, 18:47

Last one tonight.

Scoring: Siwss Pairs

Contract:
4 dbld by West
Play:
N: 5 2 T K
W: 2 3 9 T
S: A 8 5 2
E: 3 4 K J
W: T 2 5 Q
S: A J 7 6


Having failed to play his trump under the ace, declarer established the diamonds, reaching them with his good trump, and discarded dummy's spades. He lost a club, two hearts and a diamond for one off. The revoke penalty made this two off.

N/S asked the TD to look to see if they might get more under Law 64C.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 20:00

I don't think so. All declarer has to do is duck a to North and they're established, so he loses 1, 2, and 1. If North refuses to take the Q, he loses 2, 2, 1. Neither case is down more than 2.

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Posted 2009-August-14, 21:05

A day in the life?

I read the rules today, oh boy,
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Posted 2009-August-15, 03:19

It's tempting to award 2H 2S 1D and 1C to N-S, but I see no road to that result.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 03:25

BTW, this is some event David is reporting from: 440 pairs in a single event over four sessions, 14 matches of 9 boards (I think). Wow.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 04:14

I like the way you present the play diagram, David. I think it's the first time I have been able to read a play diagram without getting dizzy :)
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  Posted 2009-August-15, 04:58

To be honest, I am never quite sure of the best way to do play diagrams. One way is to always do W N E S and underline the winner: or perhaps show who leads as I have done, but put W N E S: or as I have done here. I thought I would try this way.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 13:28

best way for a play diagram is to do what you did, but in the end also put a final diagram with the state of all cards at that point. This is a lot of work and someone is gonan complain because 5 was suposed to be played before and not the 7.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 16:04

It does seem pretty routine for declarer to go at most two down by ducking a diamond to north. Since this is the result after the revoke penalty I don't see any reason to adjust further.
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Posted 2009-August-17, 13:52

awm, on Aug 16 2009, 12:04 AM, said:

It does seem pretty routine for declarer to go at most two down by ducking a diamond to north. Since this is the result after the revoke penalty I don't see any reason to adjust further.

I agree.
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  Posted 2009-August-18, 12:41

The TD who made the decision and I were not entirely convinced that West was the sort of player who would find the duck of a diamond obvious, even if it seems obvious enough on paper. At the table the diamonds apparently were established in the normal way - yes, we know that was with a guaranteed entry.

Rightly or wrongly, the TD decided she would not play the diamonds correctly 100% of the time, so she gave a weighted score by which the defenders got some percentage of another trick.
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