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4h opening

Poll: choose your actions: (42 member(s) have cast votes)

choose your actions:

  1. 4s-p (6 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. 4s-slamtry (1 votes [2.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  3. x-p (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  4. x-4s (29 votes [69.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.05%

  5. p-p (3 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  6. p-something else (1 votes [2.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:04

KQxx
xxx
Qxxxx
Q

AJxxx
x
Axx
AJxx

west deals and east opens 4♥. nobody vulnerable imps.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:08

I can't imagine anything but dbl with the South hand.

As North I would pass then. Might be wrong.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:08

I PASS.

Looking at the two hands we seem to have a suitable dummy for a 4♠ bid but it is not completely clear we will win 10 tricks.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:13

I voted for x-4s but South should double only if it is take-out oriented. North should then bid 4♠ and I think 10 tricks will be fairly easy.

I could understand South not doubling (3 aces and 2 Jacks?) but I would hardly inderstand North passing the double. 4♠ by South is an individual/bad bridge decision in my opinion.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:14

Double with South (Good defense, good offense , ♠ suit).
4♠ with North (good ♠ suit, some shape,4♠ over 4♥ often right).

For me both calls are obvious.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:36

mich-b, on Jul 29 2009, 06:14 AM, said:

Double with South (Good defense, good offense , ♠ suit).
4♠ with North (good ♠ suit, some shape,4♠ over 4♥ often right).

For me both calls are obvious.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:50

gwnn, on Jul 29 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

KQxx
xxx
Qxxxx
Q

AJxxx
x
Axx
AJxx

west deals and east opens 4♥. nobody vulnerable imps.

I think that I would product the followig auction

Mark me down in double, followed by 4♠ contingent
Too much strength in partners suit for me to want to pass
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Posted 2009-July-29, 06:00

X by South and then 4S by North. Both actions appear totally obvious.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 06:01

Cascade, on Jul 29 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

I PASS.

Looking at the two hands we seem to have a suitable dummy for a 4♠ bid but it is not completely clear we will win 10 tricks.

I don't believe you, Wayne.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 06:22

:)

with the hog cannot imagine another bid

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Posted 2009-July-29, 07:16

Cascade, on Jul 29 2009, 06:08 AM, said:

I PASS.

Looking at the two hands we seem to have a suitable dummy for a 4♠ bid but it is not completely clear we will win 10 tricks.

I vote with Wayne. Yeah you can make 4♠ and it is an easy decision to say you would X and bid 4♠ seeing partner's hand. You could also be walking into a double. All you really should know is that partner is a passed hand. So I blame the OP 100% for a bad poll :P
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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:01

X, followed by 4S.

I dont think the suit quality is good enough to consider 4S.
And even after a 4S bid, 4S should get passed out.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:05

pooltuna, on Jul 29 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

Cascade, on Jul 29 2009, 06:08 AM, said:

I PASS.

Looking at the two hands we seem to have a suitable dummy for a 4♠ bid but it is not completely clear we will win 10 tricks.

I vote with Wayne. Yeah you can make 4♠ and it is an easy decision to say you would X and bid 4♠ seeing partner's hand. You could also be walking into a double. All you really should know is that partner is a passed hand. So I blame the OP 100% for a bad poll :)

Ever heard about "4H is a transfer to 4S"?

Sry, we have 14HCP - mainly prime values, and a suitable shortage,
why on earth should I pass?

The only reason I can think of, that makes pass a distant possible
option is, that you happen to play a style, who basically always opens
flat 11 counts, e.g. if you play a 10-12 NT opening bid.
But even than this just may mean, that they can make 4H, and 4S is
a cheap sacrifice.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:24

Dbl with South and 4♠ with North and yes, it's a wtp. If you don't ever act with South's hand you are just giving up to a preempt. AJAAJ and a shortage, I can't fathom a pass. North's three little hearts with values point towards bidding and our most likely game is in spades.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:57

I don't see how and why anyone would pass the south hand, it's completely anti percentage. North's action is an easy 4♠ imo, passing with North would be resulting...
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Posted 2009-July-29, 09:16

North Pass, South Double , North 4♠
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Posted 2009-July-29, 09:19

Dbl and 4♠.

(pssst - IRL, these high level takeout doubles get taken out a lot more than at BBF).
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Posted 2009-July-29, 11:23

Definitely with the majority on this one, balancing x with the south hand and a wtp 4♠ by north.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 13:33

skaeran, on Jul 29 2009, 07:23 PM, said:

Definitely with the majority on this one, balancing x with the south hand and a wtp 4♠ by north.

You can't call this a balancing DBL?
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Posted 2009-July-29, 17:01

The_Hog, on Jul 30 2009, 12:01 AM, said:

Cascade, on Jul 29 2009, 06:08 PM, said:

I PASS.

Looking at the two hands we seem to have a suitable dummy for a 4♠ bid but it is not completely clear we will win 10 tricks.

I don't believe you, Wayne.

I am very conservative when partner is a passed hand.
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