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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2009-July-28, 17:22

Scoring: MP

(1D)-??
Do you start with 1♠ or DBL and what is your plan?
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Posted 2009-July-28, 17:51

1♠
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Posted 2009-July-28, 18:34

1♠ , if partner passes and I get another bid 2♥.
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Posted 2009-July-28, 18:38

1♠. I have 'only' 17 but this sort of smells like mis-fit.

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Posted 2009-July-28, 19:10

Double I have no problem bidding 2♠ over 2♣ and 3NT over 3♣ if partner starts with that
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Posted 2009-July-28, 19:13

1♠.

Swap the minors and I double.

Double and bid with this poor spade suit is not very attractive especially when partner might jump to 3♣ or worse compete to 3♣ over a 2♦ raise.
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Posted 2009-July-28, 23:39

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Posted 2009-July-29, 01:46


The bidding:
(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass
(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥
(3♦)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥
All Pass
 
I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).
 
Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

Edited: Added 3D bid
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Posted 2009-July-29, 04:55

kgr, on Jul 29 2009, 07:46 PM, said:


The bidding:
(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass
(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥
(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥
All Pass
 
I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).
 
Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

There is something wrong with you auction.

Partner doubled your 2♥ bid.

At any rate having bid hearts I don't see the point in your partner doubling again he can just make a quantitative raise.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:06

if partner doubles my 2♥ bid, I pass and hope for +470. If he invites me in any way, I definitely accept since I promised him 0 but in fact I have QJxxxx and 6-4.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 05:37

...Corrected the bidding above by adding a (3D) bid
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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:35

1 Spade for sure

Am I the only one, who would prefer a simple 2 Heart instead of a double of 2 ♣?

And what about 3 heart instead of the double of 3 diamond?
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Posted 2009-July-29, 08:48

Well, I double originally. For me, at MP, this is too strong, given that I play quite cheeky 1♠ overcalls at that form of scoring.

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Posted 2009-July-29, 11:31

NickRW, on Jul 29 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

Well, I double originally. For me, at MP, this is too strong, given that I play quite cheeky 1♠ overcalls at that form of scoring.

Nick

I also overcall light, but this is still a clear 1♠ overcall for me.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 11:51

kgr, on Jul 29 2009, 02:46 AM, said:


The bidding:
(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass
(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥
(3♦)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥
All Pass
 
I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).
 
Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

Edited: Added 3D bid

The 2nd double is problematic, do you really want to defend
3D with a known fit?
I prefer 3H to the double, I am not sure, I would raise 3H to
4H, but at least you have a chance.

In the current auction you only know, that partner is broke
and has 5 or 6 hearts, may be enough for 4H.

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