[mikeh]

jillybean2, on Jul 23 2009, 03:32 PM, said:

vuroth, on Jul 23 2009, 06:37 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jul 23 2009, 03:23 AM, said:

♠KJ1098x
♥x
♦Q108x
♣KJ

Granted, it meets the rule of 20, but the defense is weak, and the J♣ is a bit iffy.

10HCP + 6♠'s + 4♦'s = 20 and is ok for a 1level Vulnerable overcall?

aaarrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

The rule of 20 is awful for opening hands (too simplistic by far) and simply hideous (far worse than awful) for overcalls. My god, the madness is spreading!

[Fluffy]

I knew there was somethign wrong

I held ♣AQ, jilly held ♣KJxxx, I actually had opening values, not a clear vulnerable weak 2 .

♠KJ10xxx
♥x
♦Q10xx
♣AQ

I had that hand, and I had to bid 4♠ because jilly passed, I risked -1100 but we were highly relaxed .

[jillybean]

Fluffy, on Jul 23 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

I knew there was somethign wrong

I held ♣AQ, jilly held ♣KJxxx, I actually had opening values, not a clear vulnerable weak 2 .

♠KJ10xxx
♥x
♦Q10xx
♣AQ

I had that hand, and I had to bid 4♠ because jilly passed, I risked -1100 but we were highly relaxed .

How did you get my hand ??

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 1♥    1♠    4♥    Pass
 Pass  4♠    Pass  Pass
 Pass  

[TimG]

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

[jillybean]

TimG, on Jul 23 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

East neglected to use the stop card, I waited the mandatory 10 seconds then passed without grimacing.

[mike777]

jillybean2, on Jul 23 2009, 02:14 PM, said:

I wasn't saying I was correct in considering a double rather, if I knew 1♠ was sound it is the action I would take.

nonexpert answer
I thought x was ok(we are vul)......pass close second....i can live with either.

[TimG]

jillybean2, on Jul 23 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

TimG, on Jul 23 2009, 06:05 PM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

East neglected to use the stop card, I waited the mandatory 10 seconds then passed without grimacing.

I think your partner got real lucky.

[jillybean]

Can I change my bid to 4♠

[Jlall]

TimG, on Jul 23 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

LOL. Awesome. I was thinking it but would never say it.

[jillybean]

Jlall, on Jul 23 2009, 11:02 PM, said:

TimG, on Jul 23 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

LOL. Awesome. I was thinking it but would never say it.

You just did

[the hog]

4S is a shocker of a bid.

[Codo]

4 ♠ was a surprising expert choice and no, there was no slow pass.
Maybe there was just someone who can play his opponents- or liked to take risks.

[helene_t]

Codo, on Jul 24 2009, 07:51 AM, said:

Maybe there was just someone who can play his opponents- or liked to take risks.

Well I did comment that Gonzalo is a junior but he said he is 29 so I was wrong.

[zheddh]

mikeh, on Jul 23 2009, 06:47 PM, said:

aaarrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

The rule of 20 is awful for opening hands (too simplistic by far) and simply hideous (far worse than awful) for overcalls. My god, the madness is spreading!

LOL!

The other day i was playing with a pickup "expert" and the auction goes

(1H) - 1S - p - 3C

This guy who overcalled 1S says "This is Bergen raise, ok?"

[Fluffy]

TimG, on Jul 24 2009, 01:05 AM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

I don't know if it was because I was busy propbably posting in another forum or moving boats at that time, so would only see the bidding when that sound said it was my turn.

[Fluffy]

Jlall, on Jul 24 2009, 06:02 AM, said:

TimG, on Jul 23 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

Must have been a slow pass over 4♥.

LOL. Awesome. I was thinking it but would never say it.

Really? you say worse things often . Nevermind going on me on this matters, I might get advantage of this things from time to time when I don't pay enough attention so pointing it out won't be a problem.