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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2009-July-21, 02:32

Scoring: IMP

1-ps-1-1
2-ps-4-??

What's your call now? If you don't like 1, what's your plan?
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Posted 2009-July-21, 02:36

I like to play 1NT here as showing a 5/5 shape in the unbid suits, so that is what i would have bid.

Having bid 1S earlier, i think i will pass. Maybe, partner has some defense
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Posted 2009-July-21, 02:36

Pass.

Given our length, parter will have short hearts,
given our diamond void, partner will have some
diamonds, i.e. both features cancel each other
out.

I would have made a Michales Cue, but this is
a style thing / partnership agreement thing, the
spade suit is pretty good, so just overcalling is fine.

Assuming I made the Michaels Cue, and the bidding
would come back without any sign of life from p, I
would pass it as well.

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Posted 2009-July-21, 03:00

I'd have overcalled 2, showing the unbid suits (55+).
Not having done so, I abide with my decision (to not involve partner), and pass now instead of guessing. Anyway, they might easily go down.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 04:57

Pass and lead the smallest of my clubs.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-July-21, 06:26

Back up.

2 the first time would have been natural, for me. So, I have to pick between Sandwich, Takeout, and 2NT if I want to show both suits. White on red makes 2NT appealing, but I have boss trumps and values. Hate to bid 2NT when 2 could be the last making contract for anyone.

I think I'd probably just bid 1 myself.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 07:49

What ever 2 suited method you had available would have been a better choice. Now your stymied. Pass
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Posted 2009-July-21, 07:54

I would have bid 1NT on the first round (bids of either of the opponents' suits would have been natural).

Having overcalled 1 originally, I have no rational choice but to pass now.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 09:18

We haven't had a flame-war on sandwich NT in awhile. Sandwich is in my 2nd five of conventions I hate.

I think I'd start with 2N. My heart void tells be there will be a lot of bidding.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 12:37

Phil, on Jul 21 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

I think I'd start with 2N. My heart void tells be there will be a lot of bidding.

If you had a heart void I might agree.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 14:07

Phil, on Jul 21 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

We haven't had a flame-war on sandwich NT in awhile. Sandwich is in my 2nd five of conventions I hate.

I think I'd start with 2N. My heart void tells be there will be a lot of bidding.

There is nothing wrong with Sandwich 1NT. It merely prevents you from using a natural 1NT when both opponents are in the auction. That strikes me as being a good thing.

Sorry if this is a hijack. I won't say another word (for at least 15 minutes).
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Posted 2009-July-21, 14:47

Jlall, on Jul 21 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Phil, on Jul 21 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

I think I'd start with 2N. My heart void tells be there will be a lot of bidding.

If you had a heart void I might agree.

I'm heartless.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 16:41

ArtK78, on Jul 21 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Phil, on Jul 21 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

We haven't had a flame-war on sandwich NT in awhile. Sandwich is in my 2nd five of conventions I hate.

I think I'd start with 2N. My heart void tells be there will be a lot of bidding.

There is nothing wrong with Sandwich 1NT. It merely prevents you from using a natural 1NT when both opponents are in the auction. That strikes me as being a good thing.

Sorry if this is a hijack. I won't say another word (for at least 15 minutes).

Your competitive bidding philosophy made a lot more sense 30 years ago, when opening bids were sound, and responses promised 6 + hcp. Nowadays, with 10 point openers and 4 point responders, not only can you make game surprisingly (to old-school bidders) often but the opps are terrified that their partner has a weak hand, and so don't double the way they used to. Add to this that you often have relative 2-level safety somewhere, andyou will begin to understand why the majority of experts today play 1N as strong and natural.

The only 2 suited takeouts I have are 2N and double.. altho I play the cue of opener's suit as takeout in some partnerships, I increasingly prefer it as natural.

I would not have bid 2N here.... I would have bid 1 and, having done so, I pass, regretting not having bid 2N.
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Posted 2009-July-21, 17:01

cnszsun, on Jul 21 2009, 03:32 AM, said:

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2-ps-4-?? </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->
What's your call now? If you don't like 1, what's your plan?

I enjoy playing sandwich it comes up often. For me this hand is way too good for sandwich nt.

1s and pass now.
option two is double and now pass.
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