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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2009-July-18, 00:32

Scoring: MP

1:2
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Playing 2/1 what is your bid now?
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Posted 2009-July-18, 00:44

2, what else?
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Posted 2009-July-18, 00:56

Kathryn, do you have the problem correct? 2H is the only bid to make.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 01:02

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Posted 2009-July-18, 01:33

2, I don't think you have all of the problem posted?
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Posted 2009-July-18, 02:11

Ah I see. I think it is:

1S (2C) P (P)
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I bid 2H Kathryn. I am not happy for partner to pass a X of 2C.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 02:28

2H, followed by 3H.

If 2C was an overcall, than 2H is also the only bid,
if you want to bid 3H later is open for debate, given
the vulnerability you could even say, that this would
be insane.

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Posted 2009-July-18, 08:25

The opening post is correct, you open 1 partner bids 2. The recommendation on this hand was that after the 2 gf use 2 to show a minimum opening.

If you do have the agreement that 2 only promises 5, what sort of hand will bid 2?

AQxxx
Kxxx
Qx
xx

complete hand here.. http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry381552
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Posted 2009-July-18, 08:31

You always bid your 4-card side suit if you can below 2S. You would only rebid 2S with a 5-card suit when you are balanced and don't want to bid 2N, e.g. you are 5323 or 5233 with no stopper in the doubleton.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 20:07

Agree with Cherdanno. By passing H even with 5-4 would be very poor. Bidding 2H says nothing about strength.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 21:57

jillybean2, on Jul 18 2009, 02:25 PM, said:

The opening post is correct, you open 1 partner bids 2. The recommendation on this hand was that after the 2 gf use 2 to show a minimum opening.

If you do have the agreement that 2 only promises 5, what sort of hand will bid 2?

AQxxx
Kxxx
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xx

complete hand here.. http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry381552

I have never heard of this agreement, and it certainly doesn't feel like a good one.

The agreement that with a minimum hand you shouldn't make a higher bid than 2M after 1M 2x is a more sensible one, though.

With that agreement after 1 2, you would rebid 2 rather than raise to 3 with a minimum 5224 hand
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Posted 2009-July-18, 22:38

I think that idea exists.

My understanding is that Roth used you advocate rebidding your suit with a weak hand and therefore that mentioning a second suit necessarily showed a better than minimum.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 23:06

Cascade, on Jul 18 2009, 11:38 PM, said:

I think that idea exists.

My understanding is that Roth used you advocate rebidding your suit with a weak hand and therefore that mentioning a second suit necessarily showed a better than minimum.

when i have second 5 card suit, my hand is better than a minimum...
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Posted 2009-July-18, 23:27

EricK, on Jul 18 2009, 08:57 PM, said:

I have never heard of this agreement, and it certainly doesn't feel like a good one.

The agreement that with a minimum hand you shouldn't make a higher bid than 2M after 1M 2x  is a more sensible one, though.

With that agreement after 1 2, you would rebid 2 rather than raise to 3 with a minimum 5224 hand


Agree but I’m always encountering other methods, hence the question
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