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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2009-July-14, 03:49

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When would you do what with this hand? (seat, colors, scoring).
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Posted 2009-July-14, 03:54

gwnn, on Jul 14 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

Kx
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Jx
xx

When would you do what with this hand? (seat, colors, scoring).

I know I will be LOLed at for this but I prefer a preempt style that does not depend (much) on vulnerability in 1st/2nd seat. At least at matchpoints.

So 2♥ is generally enough for me except of course 3rd seat nonvul.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 11:29

2♥ unless in 3rd seat nonvul. Might even be tempted to pass this at first/2nd seat when vulnerable.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 11:43

first and second seat I have 3 people to worry about, and don't think 2H is helpful to my center opponent. Not that I think a pass is that great either, but as mentioned in other strings, sometimes a favorable swing can be created when one is silent and the opponents are unaware. And maybe partner will open, the opponents will be silent, and we can have a nice auction, partner knowing I didn't have a starting preempt that fit nicely into our style.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 11:53

3♥, and I don't think it's close. Are the 2♥ bidders looking at the same hand? Seems impossibly timid to me. Pass is better than 2♥.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 12:08

At IMPs:

1. White vs. white: 3♥ all seats (note: all implies 1st, 2nd, 3rd)
2. White vs. red: 3♥ all seats
3. Red vs. red: 2♥ all seats
4. Red vs. white: 2♥ in 1st or 3rd seat. May pass in 2nd seat

At Matchpoints:
3♥ all seats, and all vulnerabilities
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Posted 2009-July-14, 12:49

Usually a weak 2 but I'll pass r/w in 2nd. I'll open 3♥ w/r in 1st and 3rd.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 13:05

i'd never open 3. 7222 and a suit that is Q222222 make this hand pretty awful. I might open 2, but probably not red. I think this hand is too weak for a vul weak 2; it's pretty poor offensively.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 13:05

w/r third seat 3H
w/w or r/r 3rd seat 2H
w/r or w/w first seat 2H
w/r 2nd seat 2H

otherwise pass.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 13:10

Mech - what a pile of dren. Might open 3♥ 3rd seat w/r.

Might open 2♥ if I was playing that in other seats - but I usually play multi and I don't have a poor suit/min type of response to 2NT - so I really don't like this hand for 2♦.

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P.S. Later edit - I suppose I might be tempted with 2♦ multi in 3rd seat at equal.
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Posted 2009-July-14, 14:56

1st/2nd/3rd r/r w/w 2♥ w/r 3♥ r/w PASS

2nd/3rd red I might pass
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Posted 2009-July-15, 09:12

Hi,

I wont pass.

In first and 2nd seat being red vs. green: 2H:
At all other positions / vulnerability - 3H

In third position green vs. red: a 4H preempt can occur.

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Posted 2009-July-15, 10:17

Jlall, on Jul 14 2009, 02:05 PM, said:

w/r third seat 3H
w/w or r/r 3rd seat 2H
w/r or w/w first seat 2H
w/r 2nd seat 2H

otherwise pass.

I would always pass in second seat, otherwise the same for me.
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Posted 2009-July-15, 19:57

red = 2 1,3 seat. pass in 2\4

To bid 3 red = simply crazy , bidding 2 is already dangerous .

white = 3 in 1,3 seat and 2 in 2nd.
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Posted 2009-July-15, 22:03

2♥ is plenty with that suit (all vulnerabilities), 1st through third and I'm somewhat ashamed to bid it in 2nd.
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Posted 2009-July-16, 15:33

From a scientific point of view:
You have 7.5 losers and a bad suit. This means that vulnerable you always PASS.

7.5 losers means that you may bid 3♥ white / red but not at any other colors.
all white I would open 2♥ in 1st and 3rd, and pass in 2nd due to the terrible suit.
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Posted 2009-July-18, 17:43

2♦-multi, 1st-3rd position, any colours.
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