[pippo13]

Scoring: IMP

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I was sitting South. The bid went: E=pass / S=1NT / W=2♠ / N=2NT / E= 3♠ / S= 3NT / W=pass / N=4♥ / pass pass pass.
I bid 3NT because I thought my partner had a stop in spades, no 4-card majors and probably stops elsewhere.
We had no particular agreements.
My partner objected, saying that 2NT was an interrogative about minors, and that it is a very usual bid.
My questions:
1) Is that so?
2) Even if it is so, wasn't it better for north to bid 3♥ after West's 2♠?

[Codo]

1. Without prior discussion for B/Is 2 NT is natural and invitational.

With discussion this could be better used as scrambling or Lebensohl. Opposite an unknown expert I would always assume Lebensohl.

3. 3 HEart had been good as long as it had been forcing. I do not know what standard is, so I had doubled and bid Hearts to show a forcing hand with hearts.

[helene_t]

3♥ would be forcing for most people and I see no reason to bid 2NT with the North hand, no matter what he thought it meant.

I don't like Codo(Roland)'s idea of doubling with the North hand. Even if it is take out (which not everybody plays), you shouldn't double with a void in spades as opener may pass with four spades.

If playing negative doubles, dbl followed by 3♥ would be nonforcing. Of course you can play it the other way round but I certainly wouldn't assume that with an unknown partner.

If I was afraid that 3♥ was nonforcing I would bid 4♥ with the north hand.

[the hog]

Your partner is not correct. 2NT is usually played as lebensohl. I don't hink this is beyond a Beginner/Intermediate. Anyway, 3H would be forcing and that is what your partner should have bid. I take it you made 6?

[andy_h]

Agree with helene

[Codo]

So always willing to learn:

He should have bid 3 ♥ as obviously all know that this is forcing.

[neilkaz]

PD should just bid a GF 3♥ here, just like us oldtimers did in ancient times before transfers if there had been no overcall.

[neilkaz]

The_Hog, on Jun 25 2009, 05:27 AM, said:

Your partner is not correct. 2NT is usually played as lebensohl. I don't hink this is beyond a Beginner/Intermediate. Anyway, 3H would be forcing and that is what your partner should have bid. I take it you made 6?

Simple lebensohl is not to difficult for B/I. From my experience, what confuses them is remembering the concepts of whether fast or slow actions slow stoppers, however.

[vuroth]

neilkaz, on Jun 25 2009, 07:37 PM, said:

The_Hog, on Jun 25 2009, 05:27 AM, said:

Your partner is not correct. 2NT is usually played as lebensohl. I don't hink this is beyond a Beginner/Intermediate. Anyway, 3H would be forcing and that is what your partner should have bid. I take it you made 6?

Simple lebensohl is not to difficult for B/I. From my experience, what confuses them is remembering the concepts of whether fast or slow actions slow stoppers, however.

Lebensohl isn't beyond B/I. This B/I, though, has many other things to nail down before I add one optional convention to my game.



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