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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2009-June-13, 14:46

Here's a TD call from a tourney I ran today, I bet the "psyche" wont surprise too many.


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     1♣    1♦
 Dbl   1♠    1NT   Pass
 Pass  2♠    Pass  Pass
 Pass  

South yes, a BBO Expert called me during the hand to complain of West’s psychic double because "in any system double here promises majors".

Its easy to understand how people get this idea of psyches, education rather than reporting would be more useful.
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:03

jillybean2, on Jun 13 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

Here's a TD call from a tourney I ran today, I bet the "psyche" wont surprise too many.


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     -     1♣    1♦
 Dbl   1♠    1NT   Pass
 Pass  2♠    Pass  Pass
 Pass  

South yes, a BBO Expert called me during the hand to complain of West’s psychic double because "in any system double here promises majors".

Its easy to understand how people get this idea of psyches, education rather than reporting would be more useful.

Give a ruling and tell him it is not your job to teach him bridge.

75% of bbo experts are unacquainted with passout seat auctions and many card play techniques.

I am very fond of chinese finesses and I hardly ever attempt blind two-way finesses.

I get called a moron all the time. lol.

View PostFree, on 2011-May-10, 03:57, said:

Babalu just wanted a shoulder to cry on, is that too much to ask for?
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:14

I'm having SUCH a hard time deciding which bid I dislike more

1. The 2♠ rebid
2. The 1♦ overcall
3. The 1NT free bid
4. The double

I think that the two pairs were well matched
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:17

Bad judgement does not a psyche make.
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:19

hrothgar, on Jun 13 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

I'm having SUCH a hard time deciding which bid I dislike more

1. The 2♠ rebid
2. The 1♦ overcall
3. The 1NT free bid
4. The double

I think that the two pairs were well matched

LOL

Given that it was South who decided that it was worthwhile wasting the TD's time, I vote for the 1♦ call
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:26

hrothgar, on Jun 13 2009, 02:14 PM, said:

I'm having SUCH a hard time deciding which bid I dislike more

1. The 2♠ rebid
2. The 1♦ overcall
3. The 1NT free bid
4. The double

I think that the two pairs were well matched

and its this type of auction that has helped me reduce my bridge addiction considerably. :lol:
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:26

Cascade, on Jun 13 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Bad judgement does not a psyche make.

Wayne's on a roll LOL
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Posted 2009-June-13, 15:35

jillybean2, on Jun 13 2009, 10:26 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Jun 13 2009, 02:14 PM, said:

I'm having SUCH a hard time deciding which bid I dislike more

1. The 2♠ rebid 
2. The 1♦ overcall
3.  The 1NT free bid
4.  The double

I think that the two pairs were well matched

and its this type of auction that has helped me reduce my bridge addiction considerably. :lol:

I could understand that this kind of call helps to reduce anyones TD addiction.
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Posted 2009-June-13, 16:53

And here I thought south was going to be the one accused of "psyching" when I started to read the post.
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Posted 2009-June-13, 17:00

lol yeah me too
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Posted 2009-June-13, 17:01

They were all psyching.
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Posted 2009-June-14, 08:23

hrothgar, on Jun 13 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

I'm having SUCH a hard time deciding which bid I dislike more

1. The 2♠ rebid
2. The 1♦ overcall
3. The 1NT free bid
4. The double

I think that the two pairs were well matched

Lol I agree soooo much!
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Posted 2009-June-14, 08:49

:lol:

there are experts and then there are experts

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Posted 2009-June-14, 20:17

jdonn, on Jun 14 2009, 05:53 AM, said:

And here I thought south was going to be the one accused of "psyching" when I started to read the post.

Me three.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 15:18

babalu1997, on Jun 13 2009, 04:03 PM, said:

Give a ruling and tell him it is not your job to teach him bridge.

The purpose of calling a director over a psyche is not to get a ruling; generally you aren't entitled to one. The purpose is to make the director aware of it in case a pattern develops. Otherwise you could psyche 13 times a session and noone would be the wiser.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 16:18

What is south complaining about? Didn't the auction pretty much expose the bad double? And you don't compain about a psych, you just report it, unless of course it is a game, God forbid, where psyches aren't allowed.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 18:19

JoAnneM, on Jun 18 2009, 10:18 AM, said:

What is south complaining about? Didn't the auction pretty much expose the bad double? And you don't compain about a psych, you just report it, unless of course it is a game, God forbid, where psyches aren't allowed.

<sarcasm on>

for example playing against beginners ;)

<sarcasm off>
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Posted 2009-June-17, 23:09

JoAnneM, on Jun 17 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

What is south complaining about? Didn't the auction pretty much expose the bad double? And you don't compain about a psych, you just report it, unless of course it is a game, God forbid, where psyches aren't allowed.

South wasn't so much complaining as reporting the 'psyche'. Profitable move, in some cases reporting a psyche will earn you an A+ and the opps an A-.
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Posted 2009-June-17, 23:17

Take a look at the EBU regulations on psychic bids. (Section 6, page 29 of the document). No, they don't apply outside the EBU, but they're a reasonable approach, and worth reading and understanding for that reason.
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Posted 2009-June-18, 00:22

blackshoe, on Jun 18 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

Take a look at the EBU regulations on psychic bids. (Section 6, page 29 of the document). No, they don't apply outside the EBU, but they're a reasonable approach, and worth reading and understanding for that reason.

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Yup Blackshoe that is our treatment for pyches

6a2

and 6b6

for Wayne's interest

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