[kgr]

Scoring: IMP

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You play a basic system with your partner with 5 cards Major and longest minor - no inverted minors,..
(Pass)-Pass-(Pass)-1♣
(Pass)-1♦-(1♠)-2NT
(Pass)-3♣-(Pass)-3NT
All Pass
 
ATB for not reaching 6♣

[jdonn]

South should have opened (very few will disagree though a few of them are on the forums) but I give north more blame for the 3NT bid. Why not 3♥, he has already shown spades stopped and has the worst stopper possible and a very descriptive bid he can make. 3NT is like saying to partner "maybe you didn't hear me bid 2NT".

[EricK]

Most of the blame must lie with South who underbid his hand on three or four occasions. This is a 1♦ opening. But failing that, it is a 2♦ response. But failing that, he probably should do more than just bid 3♣. But if he doesn't do that, then he oughtn't to pass 3NT.

That's not to say North is blameless. 3NT suggests the ♠ are stronger than they are. He should bid 3♥ to show the main undisclosed feature of his hand.

[cherdanno]

South didn't bid well (I disagree about 3♣ though, I think it is forcing without discussion), but the 3N bid is just very very very bad.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

first of all, you asked the wrong question, it is more important
to reach the right game, than reaching slam.

As it is I dont like the 2NT bid by North.

I would assume, that the 1D response did not deny 4 hearts,
unless you play Walsh, but if you play a basic system, than a
1D response with 5 diamonds and 4 hearts is certainly clear cut,
so X over 1S is certainly a lot better, even if you fear that p may
treat the bid as support. Bidding NT will till be possible at a later
round.

Now to the qeustion about reaching 6C: I am not sure, I would
bother at all, if I happen to play a basic system, that is the price
to pay, but opening the South hand would have helped, because
if you play few agreements, things become easier, if you open
lighter, because lighter openings will simplify the fit finding and
getting the strength across, additionally you need to shoot a little
bit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[kgr]

P_Marlowe, on Jun 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

I would assume, that the 1D response did not deny 4 hearts,
unless you play Walsh

One of the few agreements was Walsh.

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things become easier, if you open ighter, because lighter openings will simplify the fit finding and getting the strength across, additionally you need to shoot a little
bit.

I don't like to open light when I don't have majors. But it seems like everybody thinks I should have opened. So probably I should change my opinion on opening this hand.

[cherdanno]

It's not a light opening. This is a very powerful hand, both on offense and defense.

[jdonn]

Yes you should have no qualms with opening. You have a very easy rebid and even an easy third bid if it comes to that, you have two aces in case you end up on defense and partner doubles something, you aren't opening in a bad suit, and even the jack of spades is nice if partner rebids spades (not that you should pass without it).

[hanp]

The 3NT bidder should be banned from bridge for a few years.

[kenrexford]

Agree with shared blame.

[Codo]

A style where you do do not open the south hand is playable, but surely far from main stream. You have 11 HCPS, a real good and a moderate suit, so an opening would be the majority choice. But when it does not fit in your bidding style, go on with passing.


After partner had opened 1 Club, you should think about other bids instead of 1 ♦. Like 3♠- showing a hand short of an opening, with a club fit, no four hearts and a spade shortness. I had bet that most partner had understood this bid even without an agreement. And then 5 or 6 clubs had been in the picture. This bid had been an overbid when you had not been a passed hand, but so it had painted a perfect picture of your hand.

If 3 ♣ after 2 NT was forcing, this was fine and in this case passing 3 NT was too.

Your partner made some bad bids. I had bid 2♥ over 1 Spade, showing the strength and most of the shape. With such a lousy stopper there is no need to rush into NT. If I decided to bid 2 NT I surely had found a 3 ♦ bid after partners 3 ♣. 3 NT was one of the worst possible choices. 3♥ and 4 or 5 ♣ had been much better.

[the hog]

Don't like the first pass. However as the waiter passed while I was called to the telephone, why not a 3S splinter over the 1C opening?

[kgr]

This was a one-time (for 2 training sessions and this one more serious..that 's 3-time) partner. I asked about splinters, but I understood that he didn't paly that.
I agree now that this hand had enough defence and offence & a good rebid to open it.