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Balanced with extras

Poll: what? (26 member(s) have cast votes)

what?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. double (19 votes [73.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.08%

  3. 3C (5 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

  4. 3H (2 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

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#1 User is offline   cherdanno 

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Posted 2009-June-02, 21:50

Scoring: IMP

1♦ (2♠) ?

"Are you saying that LTC merits a more respectful dismissal?"
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Posted 2009-June-02, 22:23

Pass and double are both unreasonable, and since I am never passing out 3N by partner, I'll start with 3♣. If they crowd our auction with 4♠, I think 3♣ is about as good a start as 3♥ on average.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 22:36

Double gives you the best chance of finding one of the rounded suit fits.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 23:04

This depends on your style for double? (and 3♣ etc)
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Posted 2009-June-03, 03:05

Not easy at all. I don't think I can pass and I don't like double. That leaves overbids of 3♥ or 3♣. I think 3♥ is better.

I'll have a problem if pard bids 3NT (maybe I follow up with 5♣, maybe not), but I'll be quite ok opposite any other occurrance.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 03:13

Double leaves me with a problem if pd rebids ♦ or NT.

So I prefer to overbid and GF with this hand , hoping to cath a fit for one of my suits (and hopefully some aces...). Once I made that decision I prefer 3♣ to 3♥ , since I am not passing 3NT anyway , and starting with 3♣ gives me better chances to locate my best fit.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 03:17

cherdanno, on Jun 2 2009, 10:50 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♦ (2♠) ?

3c
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Posted 2009-June-03, 03:48

Dbl. Now suppose p bids 3NT, I bid 4♣ and claim that shows this exact hand, but maybe a slammish 2434 would have bid the same way. Even so I think it offers us the best chance of landing on our feet.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 04:11

I don't dare to double, I bet p will pass it or something. 3C is my poison.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 05:12

Maybe 4♣ should be Leaping Michaels?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-03, 05:44

gnasher, on Jun 3 2009, 12:12 PM, said:

Maybe 4♣ should be Leaping Michaels?

Maybe, but fit-showing jumps are sacred on this forum.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 09:38

Believe it or not, with one partner I play transfer lebensohl in this auction. I still wouldn't know what to do!
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 10:56

In one partnership I too play transfers here, but this doesn't look like any of the examples I had in mind when we agreed it.

I can bid 3♥, invitational (3♦ would be competitive or game-forcing), or I can transfer to one of my suits and then bid the other, game-forcing but not a particularly accurate description.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-04, 14:59

gnasher, on Jun 3 2009, 11:12 PM, said:

Maybe 4♣ should be Leaping Michaels?

We play leaping Michaels in this sort of auction.
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Posted 2009-June-05, 12:16

3♥, very ugly, but at least my guess on the next round will not be as bad (I think) as if I had chosen another action now.
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