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How do you bid these 2? Suramericano de bridge (some hands)

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2009-June-03, 07:36

Scoring: IMP


Opponents never enter the auction.

How would you play 6? On the ♣A lead.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2009-June-03, 07:52

Ruff and start working on a dummy reversal.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 09:31

Good one Arend.

I would ruff high, play a diamond to the king, ruff a club high, cash the diamond ace and play a high spade to the ace and ruff a club high.

Now I exit with a high spade. If lefty wins it they are forced to play a heart unless they have AKQxx of clubs.

I've kept my spade 2 to test if clubs are 4-4, if not then I will probably play for split heart honors.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 09:39

Bidding.

Opener: 1♣
Responder: 1♠
Opener: 2♠(three-card if a pattern for a reverse but not strong enough)
Responder: 2NT (random game try)
Opener: 3♣(the reverse hand -- only three spades)
Responder: 3♦(what's your 4-card suit?)
Opener: 3♥(hearts -- 3♠ would say diamonds)
Responder: 4♦(slammish, flagging spades)
Opener: 4♠(inclined to reject -- 4♥ would have been Last Train; has a RKCB response worse than two with the Queen)

Responder now knows that the best possible hand is either two Aces without the trump King or one Ace with the trump King. So, he probably bails.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 13:25

Bidding:
1♣ - 1♥ (trf)
1♠ - 4♣ (void)
4♦ - 4NT
5♥ - 6♠
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Posted 2009-June-03, 13:42

Hanoi5, on Jun 3 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

<!-- NORTHSOUTH begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> West </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table border='1'> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> A54 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AT76 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> K </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> JT965 </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> QJT98762 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> K92 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> A6 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td>  </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- NORTHSOUTH end -->

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How would you play 6? On the ♣A lead.

Play:

Ruff with the two, just to show off.

Run ♠Q. Assuming it loses and spade come back.
Take in dummy.
Ruff club.
♦ to K
Ruff club
Ruff ♦A in dummy.
Ruff club (home if they are 4-4)
Run spades for a club/ heart-squeeze

With a diamond return, play is along the same lines.

With a heart return things get more tricky. (Bluff/counterbluff).

Can't say if the plan is better than Han's, but it's more fun.

Edit: Oops, miscounted spades. Spade to the ace, and can still play for the squeeze, but it looks a lot less attractive now that I have counted my spades.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 13:44

hanp, on Jun 3 2009, 10:31 AM, said:

Good one Arend.

I would ruff high, play a diamond to the king, ruff a club high, cash the diamond ace and play a high spade to the ace and ruff a club high.

Now I exit with a high spade. If lefty wins it they are forced to play a heart unless they have AKQxx of clubs.

I've kept my spade 2 to test if clubs are 4-4, if not then I will probably play for split heart honors.

Nit-picking here, but I would play a spade to the Ace before I used my diamond entry in case LHO has ♠Kx / ♣A stiff.

A few sub-notes on your line:

If RHO wins the spade:

- you'll have a guess on a low club lead (4th round played), but you can still ruff and try for 4-4 clubs and failing that, play for a ♥/♣ squeeze against RHO.
- if RHO exits a low heart; win in dummy and ruff a club. If RHO shows out, you are forced to play for split hearts.
- If RHO shifts to a high heart; win in hand, spade over, ruff the club and you'll have a show-up agaisnt LHO if LHO started with 5 clubs.

If LHO wins the spade:

- If LHO exits a low heart, you will have the chance for a show-up.
- If LHO exits a high heart; win in dummy, club ruff and play for split hearts.

By the way if either opponent has ♥QJx (x..), they also might shift to a LOW heart which solves your problems immediately.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 14:22

I considered playing the spade first, but then the endplay doesn't work when LHO has Ax of clubs and two spades. They would still be able to exit in diamonds. And of course I would also pay off to a 9-card diamond suit.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 17:10

1NT 4♥
4♠

or

1NT 2♥
2♠ 4♣ void after which we might get to six
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