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Posted 2009-June-02, 20:14

(3H)----???

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Is it WTP ?
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Posted 2009-June-02, 20:17

yes easy 4C.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 20:40

4C also
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Posted 2009-June-02, 20:40

4
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Posted 2009-June-03, 00:16

4.

Where are all the non-leaping-Michaels fans? :)
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Posted 2009-June-03, 00:20

mich-b, on Jun 3 2009, 03:16 PM, said:

4.

Where are all the non-leaping-Michaels fans? :)

They treat their hand as 5116 and bid 4 :)
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Posted 2009-June-03, 00:21

mich-b, on Jun 3 2009, 01:16 AM, said:

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Where are all the non-leaping-Michaels fans? :)

Right here! I guess I have to admit it. And yeah, I'll bid 4 anyway and pray. If partner bids 4 and gets doubled I'll pull.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 00:39

I am not a leaping Michaels fan but I play it with one partner. I would jump to 5C playing that. This is different from jumping to 5C when you don't play NLM of course.

I wouldn't bid 4C NLM Josh. This is forcing and I think 5C will be right more often than 4S on the hands where partner bids 4S. Partner will always be bidding spades with equal length.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 00:46

mich-b, on Jun 3 2009, 08:16 AM, said:

4.

Where are all the non-leaping-Michaels fans? :)

Right here, not at the table holding this awkward hand. :)
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Posted 2009-June-03, 05:05

Playing NLM I'd bid 5. I probably don't want to play a 4-4 spade fit, let alone a 4-3 or 4-2.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-03, 08:40

Playing NLM do you prefer to double or to jump to 5C ?

The only time X will backfired is if partner jump to 5D/6D or if 5C is way better than 3NT.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 08:53

benlessard, on Jun 3 2009, 09:40 AM, said:

Playing NLM do you prefer to double or to jump to 5C ?

The only time X will backfired is if partner jump to 5D/6D or if 5C is way better than 3NT.

5C. The thought of passing 3NT after we make a takeout double is quite painful...
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Posted 2009-June-03, 08:58

benlessard, on Jun 3 2009, 03:40 PM, said:

Playing NLM do you prefer to double or to jump to 5C ?

The only time X will backfired is if partner jump to 5D/6D or if 5C is way better than 3NT.

Are you planning to let partner play in spades?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-June-03, 10:31

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5C. The thought of passing 3NT after we make a takeout double is quite painful


I think 3Nt will be slighty better than 5C in the long run.

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Are you planning to let partner play in spades?
After a X, of course.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-June-03, 10:48

hanp, on Jun 3 2009, 01:39 AM, said:

I am not a leaping Michaels fan but I play it with one partner. I would jump to 5C playing that. This is different from jumping to 5C when you don't play NLM of course.

I wouldn't bid 4C NLM Josh. This is forcing and I think 5C will be right more often than 4S on the hands where partner bids 4S. Partner will always be bidding spades with equal length.

Even if 4 is right 1/3 of the time, they only have to save me by doubling me 1/4 of the rest of the time (1/3 + [1/4 * 2/3]) = 50%) for me to reach the better suit half the time by starting with 4. So in practice I'm not convinced bidding 5 is better.

Well in hindsight they could also double me when 4 is right too. Ok I just don't know what's best.
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Posted 2009-June-03, 13:21

Maybe its a good idea to play that after a 3H preempt, NLM can be a 6-4ish type and that 4D is a slam try while 4H is pick a game (3-3, 2-2 or even 3-2). Having 2 slam try and no pick-game is probably not optimum.

After a S preempt however 4H is to play and 4D is better played as a slam try than a pick a game.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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