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(An easy one) Do you open? Suramericano de bridge

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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:35

gnasher, on Jun 2 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

I can't see anything better than to draw trumps and play two rounds of clubs.

If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 2-2, I play the queen on the second round, because J10 / J / 10 is slightly more likely than KJ / K10.


Yes, but if trumps are 2-2 then low to the 7 still wins against singleton J, so it still comes back to the same KJ vs JT position, where low to the 7 is correct.


aguahombre, on Jun 2 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

It took 3 rounds of trump to get them out? Then your LHO can have fun with you.
After letting you suffer and play the 7, RHO shows out ;)

Sorry, no suffering involved. You just play the percentage line, knowing that you will not make the contract every time.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:40

655321, on Jun 2 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

gnasher, on Jun 2 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

I can't see anything better than to draw trumps and play two rounds of clubs.

If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 2-2, I play the queen on the second round, because J10 / J / 10 is slightly more likely than KJ / K10.


Yes, but if trumps are 2-2 then low to the 7 still wins against singleton J, so it still comes back to the same KJ vs JT position, where low to the 7 is correct.


aguahombre, on Jun 2 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

It took 3 rounds of trump to get them out? Then your LHO can have fun with you.
After letting you suffer and play the 7, RHO shows out ;)

Sorry, no suffering involved. You just play the percentage line, knowing that you will not make the contract every time.

sorry for injecting humor. Hence the smiley face.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:43

Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?) I choose that.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:44

dake50, on Jun 2 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?) I choose that.

Don't you think we would have heard about that?

Since the OP didn't specify that we were, it's a logical conclusion that we are not.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 09:56

dake50, on Jun 2 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?)  I choose that.

Has anyone amassed a collection of gadgets which, although helpful to solve a particular forum hand bidding problem, would --if used--cause you to change the meanings of several other bids to describe more frequent hand patterns and playing strength?
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Posted 2009-June-02, 11:11

1♠ in a limited openings system. Would be leery of opening it 1♠ in a standard system unless pard is used to such openings...
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Posted 2009-June-02, 12:02

The_Hog, on Jun 2 2009, 04:17 AM, said:

If you have a bid to show a 2 suiter, then clearly you use that. Else I would open 2S.

If I have a bid showing 5-4+ or 5-5 I'd not use it with a 6-card major. 2♠ is also a misbid IMO, the hand has far too much potential for that.

I might open this 4♠ (or 1♠).
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Posted 2009-June-02, 14:29

OleBerg, on Jun 2 2009, 04:06 AM, said:

4♠

Hate missing games.

Me too. It's definitely either 1 or 4 for me, depending on the mood.
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Posted 2009-June-02, 19:18

Hanoi5, on Jun 2 2009, 09:08 AM, said:



Well, for those opening 2 or 3 you get to play 4♠. For those opening 1♠ or 4♠ you'll probably wind up in 6♠.

1♠-2♣
3♣-3♠

...mess of guesses and strained bids...

-6♠

Lead.

Play clubs right.

Down.

Oh well.
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