[gwnn]

What's your absolute minimum in terms of HCP where you'd bid 1♠ over 1♥ at imps (edit: RHO opens 1♥, you bid 1♠)? if you want, you can specify any vulnerability you like (but not any state of match).

[Double !]

Csaba:

do you mean as responder (advancer) or as an overcall?

DHL

[gwnn]

Overcall

[Mbodell]

I'd overcall 1♠ in second seat with AQTxxx x Kxx xxx which is only 9 HCP.

[hanp]

I would overcall white against red in third seat with KQ109x and out, and that's generous.

[Cascade]

We play intermediate jumps so we overcall some trash at the one-level.

The lightest I have seen in our partnership is ♠ KJxxxxx and out vulnerable

[jonottawa]

5-count

[rogerclee]

Mbodell, on May 17 2009, 08:04 PM, said:

I'd overcall 1♠ in second seat with AQTxxx x Kxx xxx which is only 9 HCP.

hehe

[JLOL]

hanp, on May 17 2009, 10:08 PM, said:

I would overcall white against red in third seat with KQ109x and out, and that's generous.

Liar

[CSGibson]

Depends if partner's a passed hand. I'm more liberal with my overcalls in that situation (AQxxxx & out would be ok with a passed p, with an unpassed I probably either pass or bid 2 spades, needing a side Q or K to bid comfortably @ the 1 level)

[hanp]

I said it was generous as in, I gave myself more than I needed.

[jdonn]

I can't lie. Clee has seen me overcall 1♠ vul on JTxxxx xxx x xxx or something like that. But we won imps on the deal!

[rogerclee]

jdonn, on May 17 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

I can't lie. Clee has seen me overcall 1♠ vul on JTxxxx xxx x xxx or something like that. But we won imps on the deal!

I thought it was a push, 2♠x-1 into our teammates' 2N+3. You had the queen of spades, but that's it.

[hanp]

Oh wow, I now notice that he was vul.

[jdonn]

rogerclee, on May 18 2009, 02:23 AM, said:

jdonn, on May 17 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

I can't lie. Clee has seen me overcall 1♠ vul on JTxxxx xxx x xxx or something like that. But we won imps on the deal!

I thought it was a push, 2♠x-1 into our teammates' 2N+3. You had the queen of spades, but that's it.

Youre right about the hand, it was QJxxxx and out. But I thought our teammates bid game? Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway that's definitely the lightest I have ever overcalled vul, nv I shudder to think there may be no lower limit with the right shape vs the right opponents in the right situation.

[whereagles]

The absolute min is hard to quantify. It probably depends more on opponents' faces than on technical issues

[NickRW]

Hard to quantify without giving detail you probably don't want, but to give an example, at white v red, with a 5422 shape, I'd overcall with the HCP+controls = 9 provided the suit was decent enough for me to think it would be a reasonable lead. You should note that I play 2 level jumps as intermediate though - so we probably overcall more crappyish hands than some folks at the 1 level.

Nick

[P_Marlowe]

gwnn, on May 17 2009, 05:53 PM, said:

What's your absolute minimum in terms of HCP where you'd bid 1♠ over 1♥ at imps (edit: RHO opens 1♥, you bid 1♠)? if you want, you can specify any vulnerability you like (but not any state of match).

I cant answer, I see the hand, and I know, if I am going to make
the overcall.

But most likely the question can be reformulated:
According to which criterias, you decide to make a simple overcall
instead of a (weak) jump overcall.

In my partnership, we have a fairly tight set of req. on preemptive
overcalls, if we face a partner, who did not have the chance to speak,
if he had the cance and did not use it, I can basically do, what I like.

=> So facing a unpassed partner, I may not be able to make a jump
overcall, if I dont want to pass, I have to make a simple overcall.

Additionnally I prefer a certain suit quality, and this implies something
like QTxxx or better.

So all in all: The min. gets influenced by the position I am in, the
vulnerability, the quality of the opponents and (the state of the match).

With kind regards
Marlowe

[gnasher]

hanp, on May 18 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

I said it was generous as in, I gave myself more than I needed.

I thought you meant you were being generous to your opponents by giving them all that space at the two level.

[y66]