[jonottawa]

CayugaGuy, on May 19 2009, 04:30 AM, said:

If you routinely engage in defenses that have no chance of succeeding, then the expert declarer really doesn;t have to put much thought into your defense plays, now does he/she?

Just my .02.....

It's already been established that on this hand no defense will succeed unless we trick declarer into believing that things are not as they actually are.

If you routinely engage in posts that have no sense, then the experts who frequent this forum really don't have to put much thought into your posts, now do they?

Just my .02 ...

Now please cut to the chase and prove me wrong.

[CayugaGuy]

Jon:

You hit on it - but your 'revoke' is unnecessary!

You SHIFT to a diamond at trick 2 - HOPING declarer will think you are trying for a diamond ruff.

The ONLY way he has to thwart this is to execute a LOSER-ON-LOSER play - so he plays A - K - J of spades. When you cover the Jack, he pitches his losing club - thereby losing to the SAFE opponent (you).

Or so he thinks.

But you now lead a FOURTH ROUND OF SPADES - and partner DISCARDS HIS SECOND DIAMOND.

Now when you grab the trump ACE on the first round, you give PARTNER a DIAMOND RUFF!!

Down one!

[jonottawa]

Cayugaguy went back and edited the original post.

[sfi]

At the risk of compounding my inability to count the diamond suit (I blame it on posting at work), I'll point out that declarer should just make this hand.

Give declarer:
Ax
JTxxx
KQJx
xx

the best percentage line is just to lead trumps and rely on a 3-2 diamond break. Anything else risks a diamond ruff no matter how they divide - I would have to be sure of the layout before playing on spades at trick 3.

[655321]

sfi, on May 19 2009, 12:09 AM, said:

At the risk of compounding my inability to count the diamond suit (I blame it on posting at work)

Ah, no, you can blame it on CayugaGuy.

As jonottawa said, he edited the original post.

The North hand was KJ8 KQ42 A974 86 all the way through the arguments, then CalugaGuy changed it to KJ8 KQ4 AT974 86 when he made his last post.

I don't expect he will be back after this entertaining performance, but if he ever does post again, one might hope he fixes his CAPS LOCK key first.

[JLOL]

LOL

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Also, very nice def 655321.

[Phil]

Wow this is a hard thread to read with all of the alterations.

[jdonn]

Phil, on May 19 2009, 10:22 AM, said:

Wow this is a hard thread to read with all of the alterations.

Well worth the trouble, I promise.

[kenrexford]

Am I missing something here?

I mean, isn't one option rather simple -- play Declarer for 1552 shape (♠A ♥J109xx ♦KQJxx ♣xx. Encourage clubs. Win the second club. Lead a diamond. Get in with the trump Ace. Give partner a diamond ruff.

That's one line. Sure, partner then needs ♠xxxxx ♥xx ♦x ♣KQxxx, but is that so unlikely?

[Trumpace]

kenrexford, on May 19 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

Am I missing something here?

I mean, isn't one option rather simple -- play Declarer for 1552 shape (♠A ♥J109xx ♦KQJxx ♣xx. Encourage clubs. Win the second club. Lead a diamond. Get in with the trump Ace. Give partner a diamond ruff.

That's one line. Sure, partner then needs ♠xxxxx ♥xx ♦x ♣KQxxx, but is that so unlikely?

Leading a diamond a trick 2 works for the defense in the hand you gave...

[Fluffy]

kenrexford, on May 19 2009, 07:13 PM, said:

Am I missing something here?

I mean, isn't one option rather simple -- play Declarer for 1552 shape (♠A ♥J109xx ♦KQJxx ♣xx. Encourage clubs. Win the second club. Lead a diamond. Get in with the trump Ace. Give partner a diamond ruff.

That's one line. Sure, partner then needs ♠xxxxx ♥xx ♦x ♣KQxxx, but is that so unlikely?

That's what I was going to say, but seems like the original hand has changed from time to time.

[georgeac]

jonottawa, on May 18 2009, 11:48 PM, said:

Cayugaguy went back and edited the original post.

yeah okay. this makes this thread even worse then.

[Free]

jonottawa, on May 19 2009, 05:48 AM, said:

Cayugaguy went back and edited the original post.

DID he CHANGE his USAGE of CAPITAL letters JUST to ANNOY everyone, EVEN in POSTS afterwards?

[pirate22]

well what a B***** waste of time---------How can the intstigator radically change the hand so------at least i have learned something if i submit a defence prob,and at a later date change dummy/declarers hand,the question is nullified and would apologise sincerely to subsequent contributors-i missed the edit,and by page 3 wast totally confused ))))))))))))))))))))) i shall put someone on my non friendly forum list:))))) regards